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War: Chronicles of 22.02.22 war
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  • They are very upset now:

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  • EU to supply fighter jets to Ukraine

    Borrell

    No one wanted the war, but it had been unavoidable (c)

  • Since 5:00 explanation that original idea had been rocket strike on Belarussia, but it didn't work out.

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    Nice, sport is always just continuation of politics as we know :-)

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  • @G3550D

    Tell me straight Vitaly, do you think young Russian men are being sent to die in a good cause?

    Spend two minutes and read the quote and think.

    Any war is bad. And any war is not happening because some individual actor wants it to happen.

  • "just stop all this kindergarten level nonsence about Putin and Trump." Yes let's all be grown up and stop insulting each other. Tell me straight Vitaly, do you think young Russian men are being sent to die in a good cause?

  • @G3550D

    why otherwise sane people could support egotistical, supposedly 'God-fearing', bullies like Putin and Trump. I too also watched part of that open council. I now await the "Downfall" style parodies.

    Just stop all this kindergarten level nonsence about Putin and Trump.

    War is the continuation of policy. Consequently, we must examine the policy pursued prior to the war, the policy that led to and brought about the war. If it was an imperialist policy, i.e., one designed to safeguard the interests of finance capital and rob and oppress colonies and foreign countries, then the war stemming from that policy is imperialist. If it was a national liberation policy, i.e., one expressive of the mass movement against national oppression, then the war stemming from that policy is a war of national liberation.

    The philistine does not realize that war is “the continuation of policy”, and consequently limits himself to the formula that “the enemy has attacked us”, “the enemy has invaded my country”, without stopping to think what issues are at stake in the war, which classes are waging it, and with what political objects.

    For the philistine the important thing is where the armies stand, who is winning at the moment. For the Marxist the important thing is what issues are at stake in this war, during which first one, then the other army may be on top.

    V. Lenin

  • Thank you Andrew Reid for bringing some commonsense to this discussion. If we are around in a couple of years (another oblique nuclear threat from Putin today), it will be interesting to look back and try to work out why otherwise sane people could support egotistical, supposedly 'God-fearing', bullies like Putin and Trump. I too also watched part of that open council. I now await the "Downfall" style parodies.

  • Second, we will paralyse the assets of Russia’s central bank.

    This will freeze its transactions.

    And it will make it impossible for the Central Bank to liquidate its assets.

    Most fun here is that ALL our leading economists told that this can't happen and we can't be like Libya.

    Turns out they are idiots.

  • @radikalfilm

    I'm just saying your guy overreached. Russia didn't have the supply chain to pull this off. Semiconductors are just one facet (a very important one), there will be other unforeseen consequences.

    Again, just forget about "our guy". Such things are performed only by united ruling class. And think why this happened.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev I'm not disputing history, I am aware how they operate. Just because my country is now in NATO doesn't make me blind, or your country an enemy. I'm just saying your guy overreached. Russia didn't have the supply chain to pull this off. Semiconductors are just one facet (a very important one), there will be other unforeseen consequences. edit: re-reading your comment, you speak of an inside job, not just how the West plays its cards. That I'm not privy to, and won't comment on.

  • @radikalfilm

    History of our semiconductor issues is very long.

    To be short - exact same authors who made first gas exports to EU in 60s also destroyed our processors and semiconductors school. And moved mainframes to IBM standard. Later same guys write bank laws in 1987 and destroyed USSR. Exactly same persons.

  • Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), an Taiwanese semiconductor manufacturer, has stopped deliveries of its products to Russia, the Central Taiwan News Agency (CNA) reports.

    "TSMC has completely stopped deliveries to Russia and its suppliers, having carefully studied the sanctions to ensure their full compliance," the agency reports, citing sources.

    The agency, citing a source, also reports that TSMC has stopped production of Elbrus brand semiconductors developed in Russia.

  • From Scott Ritter, the former WMD inspector who told the truth in Iraq-

    Prior to this date, Russia was treated by the West as an annoyance, belittled by economic and even military elites as little more than a “giant gas station masquerading as a nation,” to quote John McCain, the now-deceased senator from Arizona.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin had been subjected to a series of sophomoric psychological profiles that trivialized Russian national concerns as little more than the psychotic whim of a troubled individual. The caricatures that emerged of the Russian state and its leadership colored the analysis of Russia’s oft-stated concerns over what it viewed as its legitimate national security.

    ...Russia had been clear about what it wanted, and what the consequences of failing to get that would be. This war was predictable, if only the West had listened.

    https://www.energyintel.com/0000017f-307c-d3e7-a17f-f1fdfee40000

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev Maybe you have a micron feature size process from the 80's still in operation and could move the design to that? At worst they could implement it on discrete boards, with TTL logic... I know I'm poking your eye, it's not my actual intention to be mean, I just can't help myself from making fun before the world goes up in smoke.

    I feel like this hasn't been thought through to all its possible ramifications and consequences. Why couldn't your master just prop up the breakaway republics in the Donbas, it would've achieved the political objective. Now you'll be dependent on the Chinese, and it won't be a relationship between equals. Maybe they could manufacture your chips, they have at least the 28nm process node..

  • “The war in Ukraine marks a major geopolitical and historical turning point of the 21st century and runs the risk of a return of empires and border conflicts. This major crisis will have consequences on our lives, our economy and our security” Macron.

    “Today, nothing works anymore. NATO doesn't work. The G7 doesn't work. The G20, which I wanted to create, does not work. And even the UN, which oscillates between apathy and immobility ,” Nicolas Sarkozy.

    https://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2022/02/25/emmanuel-macron-adresse-un-message-au-parlement-sur-la-guerre-en-ukraine-apres-avoir-consulte-francois-hollande-et-nicolas-sarkozy_6115259_823448.html

    Soon the veil of what today's world is made of will vanish completely. Europe starts to see it's misery but it's to late already.

  • Zelensky appealed to Visa and MasterCard with a request to ban the operation of cards in Russia.

    Issue here is that special local system is in place that will keep them working locally and another fully local card system can replace them if necessary.

  • @radikalfilm

    As far as I know TSMC already stopped making anything. But this state is uncertain.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev "Intel and AMD Halt Chip Sales to Russia." As long as TSMC keeps fabbing Elbrus you guys are good ":-)

  • Intel and AMD Halt Chip Sales to Russia.

  • @AndrewReid_EOSHD

    And I am not for a second suggesting Capitalism is perfect. But it's not all about corporations, but small family businesses as well.

    Small businesses do not define modern capitalism. Read that imperialism is and why it is important to understand how things work.

  • @AndrewReid_EOSHD

    Andrew, make your homework, ok?

  • And I am not for a second suggesting Capitalism is perfect. But it's not all about corporations, but small family businesses as well. Sigma lenses are capitalism. Japanese coffee shops are capitalism. It is not perfect but where there are alternatives people don't seem too keen to live there do they? How many Syrian refugees are there in Siberia?

  • This "genocide" under the EU in ex soviet satellites, where is it? I mainly see larger economies, creative industries, filmmakers, photographers, and a very modern Estonia with many technology companies. Russia could do all of that under socialism but instead prefers to build palaces for Putin and wage war on your own people

  • @AndrewReid_EOSHD

    It's not a committee. It's a dictatorship and a show.

    Ruling doesn't work this way, I specially referenced and pinned you topic about dictatorships, and you still din't spend time to read.

    Poland is not a "stupid puppet". Ask our Polish friends how their careers and life are going - pretty good on the whole, and their governments can make their own decisions within the alliance. They have a seat at the EU table. As the UK is finding out, it's better to be at the table than not.

    It is better to be able to have your own decision. And not suffer if owner suddenly will make your life miserable.

    Somehow in 1989 all EU countries told to exUSSR and satellites how good it will be, how friends they will be. Yet if you open demographics charts you will see genocide, and same genocide of independent manufacturing, energy sectors and more.

    They're capable of removing American influence over their ultimate destiny and culture. In many respects, Europe disagrees with America. Many people in the UK dislike American culture and influence too. We are not one and the same country.

    Issue is not US, UK or EU - issue is capitalism and huge corporations who still can't overcome nationalism.

    The fragile stability is breaking and won't return to steady state for a while, live with it.

    Your life will be much worse, lot of your work possibilities won't return in next 10-20 years.