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Driftwood Quantum X Settings, Series 1: v3b Rocket - v4b Orion - v5 β Pictoris
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  • Hi All!

    This is the very first time, I'm posting my test results. So forgive allmy beginners faults. =D But anyways, I shot today some test shots using Driftwood Quantum X 'SpanMyBitchUp' v2b hack. My idea was to shoot same object using 24p, HBR, and Manual Movie Mode (1080i, 720p and Mjpeg) just to see the difference in image quality. Then I did second run of shots by moving the camera around - just to see how each preset handles the motion.

    So my first impressions are that there is very little if any differences in image quality between 24p and HBR(25). Both looked very good in daylight. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I convert mts-files to ProRes4X4 in 5DtoRGB and used gamma 1.8(flatter). What also impressed me was how much better cinematic motion is in all settings. Thats crucial for me, if I'm doing handheld or shoulder mount shots. Gonna try Orion and Rocket next.

    Just wan't to thank VK, Nick and all the people testing! Next time I get my paycheck, it's donation time. =)

    BR, misterj

    PS. I've tried Orion-patch but will run in problems when shooting 1080i (FSH). My card is Sandisk(95mps).

    EDIT:

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    Kit Lens 14-42 mm and Film mode smooth -2 -2 -2 -2.

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    1920 x 1080 - 2M
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    1920 x 1080 - 2M
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    1920 x 1080 - 2M
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    1280 x 720 - 758K
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    1920 x 1080 - 2M
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    673 x 445 - 89K
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  • @mhun

    If you have the gh2 set to manual (M) mode you have full control of shutter and aperture. Check that you have not got the LCD in menu set to A* (automatic). Set it to 1, 2 or 3 (for brightness) depending on your preference.

  • It comes that way

  • @royfel

    Did u change cam to ntsc?

  • Just asking: Very pleased with Orion but I do have to turn in 30fps work, the broadcasters in this area have made it the new standard. I realize that most of the development is done for a PAL enviroment and that 30 frames is a lot more than 25 frames in the HBR mode, Is it possible that I get fails in HBR because the "settings" in HBR are made for 25 not 30. (HBR does work with Rocket, not span my or Orion)? Could you look at this for those of us on the wrong side of the pond. As it is now I am either shooting MJPEG or 24fps and conforming in VirtualDub after converting in Cineform to get that sweet look that only Orion seems to bring. I suppose what I'm pondering is if a group of settings is optimized for HBR PAL will they fail with HBR NTSC?

  • @driftwood I tried a clean install on a completely separate computer, downloaded latest ptools, fresh GF2 firmware, downloaded latest Orion. Copied the setb and seth file directly to the ptools directory, I even ran as administrator but I still get that rouge P-frame that won't allow 720p to work correctly. Nevertheless, 1080i works amazingly, I think I will just stick to 1080.

  • what are the max clip lengths you can get Orion 24p and HBR?

    Are people able to span an entire card?

  • @itscehris: So you've just shot your first couple of videos on your new GF-2 and are wondering why they look nothing like the example you posted. The good news is that your camera is completely capable of shooting that level of quality (or much better, in fact). The bad news is that it's not simply a matter of installing the right "hack" for your camera and pushing the red button. As @danyyyel noted, the professional look in that video is all about the lighting, the make-up, and the model, as well as some editing and probably some color-correction and other post-processing. The camera model and firmware hack settings are only a minor factor in comparison. There's plenty of information on this site (in the FAQs, and on a couple of "beginner" threads) to get you started with installing custom firmware on the camera, but (at a minimum) you'll also need to do some reading up on lighting technique to start getting results like this. Good lighting doesn't need to be expensive (although it's a lot easier if you've got some money to spend on equipment), but it does take a lot of practice and study.

  • @driftwood @leejb4

    I have same kind of problem with v2. But when i look the file with Steamphrser, it looked ok. In winmediaplayer and premier still skip frames. So i try vlc and file looked OK. After that i convert file to Prores and it was just ok no dropped frames. I also first think that it was my Trancend class 10 card, pany 14 - 140. And strange incam play did not drop any frames so now i have my doupts. Also now i have v3b what i have not tested prperly yet.

  • Wow. This just keeps getting better day by day. Thank you Vitaly and driftwood and all other testers for pushing the boundaries. There's so much new progress that it's almost hard to stay caught up. I shot this little test on Quantum v9b and just thought i'd share. Can't wait to try out the X patches

  • this seems like a great hack. I am new on this site. I have looked and installed the different versions. Can someone tell me if it allows now full manual control in video (with regards to aperture/Shutter combination)? I am still trying to over ride the annoying automatic compensation that kicks in when light changes. thanks for your insights.

  • @leejb4 That looks even better, especially on youtube full HD.

  • Hey, this is a repost of a video that I put up but it is in HD now. It is all hand held but there are some good shots to show the power of this camera.

  • @mrengine Dropouts could be to card issue. What type card? reformat card. Try it again.

  • @rsquires true that! should have tried to put some 3D burning cars and zombies in there! :p except im no visual effects guy. cloverdale is where a lot of smallville was shot and it does have a small town feel to it like the town in the walking dead. i loooove the quality Quantum Orion provides! just amazing and mouth watering!

  • @DevonH That second screen shot is amazing. Detail is insane for this camera

  • @stanlymanly2 Love the clip. But where are all the people. Looks like the Walking Dead. Just need a wrecked car here and there and you'd be good to go.

  • @Dusty42 FH/H is a Trick mode demo on SpanMyBitchUp.

  • @driftwood, I down loaded SpanMyBitchUp in the last few days. Did not have time to put the settings in the camera just yet. I will probably have a little time this weekend. Might be able to test it out. However, I looked at the settings and found that the "Video Bitrate FH/H" was at 5,000,000 (5mbs). Is it intended this way?

    Thanks.

  • First quick edit from Quantum Rocket v2... smooth profile -2,-2,-2,-2, panny 14-140mm, transcend class 10 30mb/s.

    Like the hack settings, but what I shot indoors seems to hold up better than the outdoor stuff for some reason. I also strangely got a few corrupt frames during shooting...you may notice the second shot of the beaver skips slightly as a I cleaned up the dropped frames by cutting them out and pasting in adjacent frames....

    dropped frames on solid state...that seems weird to me...I'm used to dropped frames in HDV.

  • OMG!!!! Orion IS AMAZING! :D check out a quick test shoot I did. Grading it was a breeze! I barely retouched it. Check it out! :D :D :D Super thanks to Nick Driftwood and Vitaly!! :D amazing work!!! keep it up! I feel like I never want to touch another camera ever!!

  • @Hallvalla I really like the shot at :37 in your filmeo.

  • To be honest, I'm being overly picky about the noise, and got a well deserved slap from the girlfriend when I repeatedly asked if she noticed it.

  • Agreed, What important is the low level fine detail is rendered in in all its glory. Since noise is fine detail, it is what it is. Light up and record low ISO as possible. There was earlier discussion pre 3.64d and Orion 4b days to consider "some" noise to help with banding. Based on intial impressions of 3.64d and Orion 4b, this may now not be needed.

  • It's funny that there is so much discussion about noise. Look at any film and in low light you will have some sort of noise/grain. It's only really recently that we've been spoilt by very good sensors producing incredible noise free images in low or little light. And if noise really bothers you then use Neat Video. It is truly brilliant what it can do. Even with stuff shot I the ISO no go zone.

    I really like the grain we are getting in shadows. Before unexposed areas were muddy weren't they and now that is gone. fine detail is retained superbly. I have footage of a painted wall and the rollermarks are completely visible. Incredible! I am using Orion and I can't believe what I am looking at. The shadows do hold detail now and you can pull out the shadows with fill in post which wasn't an option before. I am assuming too that this will work very well with sky gradation as the noise actually helps mask the 8bit colour space.

    Just over the past few days I have found that I am using Cine and Smooth all set to -2 apart from colour. I use Smooth indoors as it lifts shadows and Cine outside as it tends to limit hilight blow out. But the great thing is consistency. Just to be able to know that you can play with the image after is great.

    fantastic times to be a GH2 owner.

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