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  • markr041markr041

    Just for fun, and there is a rainbow.

    Protune flat, WB native, sharpness medium. Transformed in Vegas pro using ACES (no LUT).

  • EspenBEspenB

    There is seems to already be a promotion on the Hero7 SILVER in the GoPro store.

    "SILVER30" gives you 60 USD off in the US GoPro store. (Promo code not valid in Europe.)

    I think we can take from this that the SILVER is probably not selling particularly well.

    Well we see heavy discounts and promotions also on the BLACK in december?

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  • EspenBEspenB

    "At the Qualcomm 4G/5G Summit, Qualcomm Technologies, Inc., a subsidiary of Qualcomm Incorporated (NASDAQ: QCOM), today announced that two cameras in GoPro’s just-released HERO7 lineup use Qualcomm Technologies’ solutions. The GoPro HERO7 Silver and HERO7 White use the Qualcomm® Vision Intelligence 200 and Vision Intelligence 100 Platforms, respectively. Both platforms are based on the Qualcomm® APQ8053 system-on-chip (SoC), which features a heterogeneous compute architecture designed to deliver high compute capability and outstanding power efficiency. The SoC also features integrated location and connectivity which allows for seamless sharing of content wirelessly."

    https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2018/10/22/qualcomm-and-gopro-collaborate-hero7-silver-and-white-cameras

  • markr041markr041

    Sharpness settings comparisons, at 4K 60P:

    First low, then Medium then High. The change will be obvious. Two scenes. Tree foliage makes the differences quite apparent.

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

  • eatstoomuchjameatstoomuchjam

    Wow. People seem really angry that the camera shoots 1440 vs 1080. So much rage about better image quality which will probably not cause any issues at all in editing.

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  • tcarrettitcarretti

    @EspenB Funny you say that! I had been using the Myk App to record audio to my iPhone while controlling my Hero 6. That app will then transport the footage from the GoPro camera to the phone and sync the audio to create a new file. The app worked a treat with the Hero 6, but on the Hero 7 it seems GoPro was able to lockout the bluetooth so there is a slight latency in the syncing process. I'm hoping they get it sorted out because it really works well with the Hero 6.

    Here's a link to my test of the app using the GoPro Hero 6 Black:

    Skip to 4:30 to get straight to the app part....

  • EspenBEspenB

    https://gethypoxic.com/blogs/technical/gopro-hero7-teardown

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  • EspenBEspenB

    @tcarretti - I'm still hoping for GoPro to provide a bluetooth microphone option.

    The basic problem is that my smart phone has better audio recording.

  • tcarrettitcarretti

    That sounds pretty good! I'm loving the footage from mine as much as my Sony FDR X3000 now. For some reason, my audio, although better than the Hero 6, still doesn't sound as good as this. I set mine to stereo as well and have opened up some slots on the standard cage that comes with the unit to expose the mic holes a little better, but still not as good as I would like. Can't complain because it's an action camera and does THAT part extremely well.

  • markr041markr041

    How good is the audio from internal mics?

    Shot in Protune flat, WB=native. 4K60P with stabilization, since handheld. Internal mics only. Audio set to stereo with no processing.

  • markr041markr041

    Here are some more tests. First, walking through a street fair, no gimbal:

    Indoor (and outdoor) shooting:
    All shot in 4K60P, HEVC, using Protune flat and WB native, and graded in Vegas Pro.

  • BrumbazzBrumbazz

    Hahaha, the camera does not exist :-)

  • EspenBEspenB

    You have to give it to GoPro. After the compact segement is dead they re-invent the Gopro has a small digital compact camera. Just strap on the sleave and lanyard. What is wrong with this picture...

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    https://www.lesnumeriques.com/action-cam/gopro-hero7-black-p46175/test.html

  • eatstoomuchjameatstoomuchjam

    @EspenB Yes, one of the chipsets with 3-axis EIS.

  • markr041markr041

    Yes, Kislevitz is a very good source for information on shooting with GoPro cameras..

  • EspenBEspenB

    Abe Kislevitz from the GoPro media team has a better overview than most influencers.

    "I won’t be ditching my Karma Grip anytime soon for a few select reasons. I want to make sure you know the limitations of HyperSmooth to help aid in getting the most out of your HERO7."

    He tells you about hypersmooth limitations in panning conditions, dark scenes, when using ND filters, etc.

    http://abekislevitz.com/gopro-hero7-black/

  • EspenBEspenB

    @markr941 - Lets give it to iPhoneDo. He only mentioned the cheapening of the material on the outer casing and did not mention the Hero7 battery door issue at all. :-)

  • EspenBEspenB

    @eatstoomuchjam "I just wish Yi would answer with a 4k+ variant based on one of the Ambarella chipsets with built-in EIS."

    You mean 3-axis dixigal EIS as the Hero5 is a 2-axis EIS with an Ambarella chip.

  • eatstoomuchjameatstoomuchjam

    Yeah. He was clearly wrong on the video thing. Reviewers are humans and make mistakes. We'll see if he takes that back, but he's still "right enough" most of the time.

    Similarly, the video right above his where a mountain biker complains that electronic sensor stabilization isn't actually as good as a gimbal for every use case and complains that GoPro are either cherry picking or post-stabilizing their example footage a bit more was a little cringeworthy for me. It's pretty obvious that no sensor stabilization is going to be as good as a gimbal in every situation, but yet the guy acted as though GP were being significantly dishonest in their marketing - despite that personal experience and various other youtubers' videos have shown that for non-extreme use cases, it really is impressive and worth the hype - now I just wish Yi would answer with a 4k+ variant based on one of the Ambarella chipsets with built-in EIS.

  • DrDaveDrDave

    The bitrate thing really does give an erroneous impression.

  • markr041markr041

    Well, iPhoneDo "brutally" criticized the Hero7 for low bitrates (more than once), in ignorance of compression and bitrate choice. How is that helpful? There are a lot more entertaining options in the visual arts, most of which are less misleading. I do agree he is fun and I have watched a lot of them, but I worry that all of his reviews, when I do not know much about the product, are similarly inaccurate.

    I do not just sit around and kvetch; I left two posts on his video site about compression and bitrates. So let's see how responsible he is. I did the same for two other early video "reviews" and the guys acknowledged the issue. One gave my a like! :).

    Someone here posted a video of a pre-production camera menu that had crippled capabilities. These misleading reviews are not isolated incidences (my favorite is in the great Casey's review of the first Mavic: he did not realize there was a focus setting, and all the footage was "soft."). There is a race to be first that trumps accuracy. And I will refrain from mentioning the quality of the video examples in most of the reviews (iPhoneDo's were pretty good).

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