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  • I know I sound exaggerated sometimes but it’s amazes me how my thoughts of control power and genocide are all becoming facts

    I know that in future I will have no other choice than get vaccinated, due to severe mutations made with more than 3 years of experience making them in field. But I have to endure more.

    There must be another way, it’s not possible to have no other choices is cos we are thinking inside the box like cattle feeling oppressed.

    There must be another ways. Like ivermectin and hudroxyclorequine, and chlorine oxide.

    A fortunately I have the junk file and high Andes mountain to escape lol.

  • My quarter says there is an ulterior motive behind these so-called "vaccines" because they are being pushed too hard. Historically our government, while playing lip service to having interest in public health, never mandated anything and just let coronaviruses run their natural course year after year.

    Now we have a likely bioengineered virus (thanks in part to Fauci redirecting public funds to Wuhan) that 99.5% of those infected recover from naturally that suddenly warrants globally-mandated use of a gene therapeutic inoculation laced with graphene oxide that has likely killed thousands if not tens of thousands while many more suffer from a variety of serious adverse effects.

    Stop and think about this. There is a powerful global cabal singing in unison from the same hymnal. Inoculate or else! And not just once or twice. Three times, four times, possibly every year that you manage to live with these likely toxic, ADE inducing protocols.

    No, there's something else afoot with these jabs, and Bill Gates has been conspicuously silent of late, hasn't he?

  • @hardimpact

    This guys have detailed plan, we are at the beginning, but for next stage they need almost 100% vaccine coverage, as otherwise someone can see some bad things.

    My own understanding is that you can only get so far with virus alone, but with added vaccine and ADE it can be very different.

    Stage 1. It was fully unique virus that had been very contagious without cough, also had been able to attach to both ACE and brain related receptors. But it was seasons dependent and specially limited.

    Stage 2. New variation of virus that is around 10x contagious, now with mild cough. Seasons dependence is almost gone fully, and it is unique.

    Note that quality of "mutations" is millions times better compared to flu, even first stage virus had thousands of mutations that all had been almost perfect variant for humans. The only previous cases of such things had been lab induced mutations where they run tens of thousands of good variants via animals to get perfect ones.

    Also note how careful mainstream media covered situation with flu. As it suddenly had been totally gone even for countries where mask usage had been very small.

  • I seriously doubt it takes more than 2 years for everyone worldwide to get infected(since its 40x more contagious than the flue). At this point, If there's 'new' cases, it has to be re-infection or mutations.

    I just don't understand what a 3rd booster shot is going to do that the 2nd shot doesn't. I know the immune response goes down after a while, but it can't possibly be healthy to trigger 900% antibodies every 6 months.

  • President Biden on Thursday signed an executive order mandating that all federal employees and contractors get vaccinated against COVID-19, with no exceptions for those who agree to regular testing for the virus, according to a source familiar with the plans.

    The Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) is developing a rule that will require all employers with 100 or more employees to ensure their workforce is fully vaccinated or require any workers who remain unvaccinated to produce a negative test result on at least a weekly basis before coming to work. OSHA will issue an Emergency Temporary Standard (ETS) to implement this requirement. This requirement will impact over 80 million workers in private sector businesses with 100+ employees.

    Very soon it will be required for all and everyone. Such way you can fully explain far on invermecin and any other method.

  • the vaccine isn't working as anticipated so the CDC is editing the definition of a "vaccine" with some lovely 1984 spin-speak.

    old Vaccine– “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease.”

    new: Vaccine– “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

    old link http://web.archive.org/web/20210826113846/https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm new updated link https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm

  • "Eight thousand Israelis who were vaccinated with Pfizer had a tenfold decrease in antibody concentration after six months. This is stated in a study by a group of scientists who published the results on medRxiv."

    It will be interesting to see (if it's honestly reported and not censored) how many Israelis suffer from ADE once they come in contact with COVID-19 or, for that matter, any other coronavirus. If the animal studies are correlative, it doesn't bode well. Some doctors suggest that the antibodies that are artificially produced are not "good" antibodies.

    Time will tell.

  • Eight thousand Israelis who were vaccinated with Pfizer had a tenfold decrease in antibody concentration after six months. This is stated in a study by a group of scientists who published the results on medRxiv.

    Observations have shown that usually the amount of antibodies to the virus remains high for 6-8 months. However, the effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine can decline faster than the Moderna vaccine and other drugs. Physicians led by Jennifer Kertes of Maccabi Health Service put this hypothesis to the test for the first time.

    Their study involved more than 8,300 Israelis who received two injections of Pfizer vaccine between January and July this year. The results confirmed that the level of antibodies generated after the Pfizer vaccine does drop rapidly over time. On average, in the blood of vaccinated Israelis there were more than 14 thousand conventional units of antibodies in the first month after vaccination, and after six months this figure decreased by about ten times.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.01.21262957v1

  • @miko

    a new #SARSCoV2 variant C.1.2 just identified in South Africa & several countries, with concerns it could be more infectious and evade vaccines. #C12 also has mutation rate that is nearly twice as fast as the rate of the other variants.

    https://www.jpost.com/health-science/new-covid-variant-detected-in-south-africa-most-mutated-variant-so-far-678011

    It had been very many reported variants, but only Alpha and Delta are represented in mass.

  • The bio printers are going brrrrrr.

  • @endotoxic

    "I think now there is also a lot more human error than I thought. Not all it’s planned"

    Well either side the msm with its hoards or sceptics and even @Vitaliy with down to earth approach don't realize that it doesn't matter how well every thing is planned there will always be some ...sistem error...

  • There is a lot more. I think now there is also a lot more human error than I thought. Not all it’s planned. Obviously here we are facing our own negligence.

  • @endotoxic

    Yep... This may verify the vaccines are responsible for Delta

    https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext

  • The vaccine created the Delta variant from that I’m sure.

  • Thing is, when all this is digested by the common people real chaos a distress will enter the. Lives of millions instantly. More mental issues for the masses, and in 18 months massive death. It’s like knowing that you willing die in near future es or yes in some cases.

  • The new analysis relies on the database of Maccabi Healthcare Services, which enrolls about 2.5 million Israelis. The study, led by Tal Patalon and Sivan Gazit at KSM, the system’s research and innovation arm, found in two analyses that people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus. In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

    https://www.scribd.com/document/521947447/2021-08-24-21262415v1-full#from_embed

  • You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.

    Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.

    This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.

    But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.

    "That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

    "This isn't proven, but it could be a lot cheaper and simpler to let that happen than spend the whole time immunising people," said Prof Finn, who warns we could end up "locked into a cycle of boosting" without seeing if it was necessary.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

  • On August 10, 2021, a group of Vietnamese virologists submitted a scientific article for consideration, according to which, in cases of Vietnamese doctors with the Delta variant, the viral load (the number of viral particles in the blood of an infected person per 1 milliliter of blood) is 250 times higher than that of unvaccinated patients.

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

  • So, shedding was part of the plan from the start. Vaccines will become the mayor contagious form of deseases, not just covid 19, very interesting this mRNA shots and its programming ability , they are also big spreaders in real world. Very smart way to overflow the system, accelerate the deaths and ensure chaos making a profit in the way. Its not surprising, just very interesting strategy from them. Make me think a lot, i have a few new theories in my mind now, have to decode some stuff still. But from now seems to me that all manufacturers of mRNA shots have had alternative versions of their vaccines in demographically different places at the same time. Seems logical since the wide spread of so different side effects, so the may have been testing more actively on population than though initially.

    The shedding, thats very interesting. More on that later, i have to investigate this shit. We are fucked if all vaccinated become spreaders.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    Yessir! These "vaccines" will be shown to be a HUGE problem over time, I believe. Listen to this fascinating interview with former Pfizer employee Karen Kingston:

    https://rumble.com/vlod4c-wow-former-pfizer-employee-checkmate.-game-over.-we-win.html

  • Of 514 patients in Israel hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Aug. 15, 59 percent were fully vaccinated, according to an Aug. 16 article from Science that cited national data tracked by Israel's largest health management organization. The figures suggest breakthrough infections may be more common than the term implies, the report suggests.

    Most of the vaccinated patients who were hospitalized, about 87 percent, were at least 60 years old.

    It is enough to look to Flu vaccines efficiency to notice that with old patients vaccines work really bad.

  • Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others.

    Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-21/science-can-t-keep-up-with-virus-creating-worry-for-vaccinated

  • Apparently, a technical interpretation of the so-called "FDA Approval" exposes that the current Pfizer formula is still operating under emergency use authorization with a liability waiver indemnifying the company from any legal action. Comirnaty (the legally unprotected brand) is a similar mRNA inoculation that BioNtech and Pfizer own is not commercially available as of yet and is apparently the product that will receive FDA approval after more research is gathered.

  • @firstbase Issue with vitaliy is he just has left brain aproach to everything, fucking everything. Sooo It’s what it is. Please keep on posting those links are very informative!!!