Might wanne post some settings, shutter, iso, lens, etc? also the GH3 is preproduction, not final, so the firmware is not yet final.

@sicovdplas the 2 photos are not exposed the same and dont have same temperature so your conclusion (even if it seems to be true) are a bit "a priori".

@amateur bonjour, pas mal ton montage. gh2 looks more crispy for sure. As far as detail is concerned, it is a big difference from gh2 and gh3. Btw, you should have correct white temperature for the 2 clips look the same. We can see clipped highlight with gh2 (we know gh2 has poor DR, especially in the highlights). Shadows are better in gh3 (see the black suit). I am a bit worried about detail given by the gh3 (compared to gh2).

I think it is the very FIRST video that shows the guts of gh3. Bravo amateur, you are a pro :-)

Not sure why everyone is emphasizing these dynamic range tests as opposed to the ones linked earlier in the thread - which were tripod based, much closer in framing, had the settings indicated more clearly in the thread and only had the disadvantage of comparing the un-hacked GH2 to the GH3.

@thepalalias you just pointed out why the *.f4v test has advantage : comparing gh3 vs gh2. As we know gh2 better, we can now clearly see what are the guts of gh3 now. Even if f4v is compressed, because here, compression is on par for gh2 and gh3.

This test shows clearly that gh3 has less detail than gh2. It is a regression. gh2 is a gem and still has the crown :-) This test shows gh3>gh2 as far as DR is concerned. This test shows gh3 has no color cast as gh2 has.

Those two images are exactly the same file.

magnifico.....+1 all footage I saw gave the same conclusions with this beta firmware:

• lack of detail
• moiré
• aliasing.

GH2 seems to be better, ... much better than GH3.

Vitaliy seems to have a lot of work to beat his precedent GH2 hack :-))

Blah blah blah.. I'm still pretty sure the gh3 is a serious update to the gh2 image-wise, even if most of the footage we've seen is terribly shot. Still waiting to preorder this lovely camera!

No Problems...simply buy the GH3 and be happy. Just stating my personal view, after all...we all have a personal view and others may not agree, thats fine...we just have to simply agree to disagree. Some of us see a Sony look and notice less detail and others dont, its no world changing event. You either buy the new GH3 and love it or you dont buy it, its that simple.

Has anyone heard whether the XLR input adapter is going to be a real thing or if that was/is just an unsubstantiated rumor. For me - being able to have a solid audio input connection would be huge.

@Astro tbh, i was like that with the gh3 at first. now im excited to get it. Im a wedding filmmaker and I used two GH2's. After seeing what the image of iso 3200 looks like, i was sold on it. I just want a m43 camera specifically in the panasonic lineup that can do 3200 iso without that annoying line coming up in the middle area or muddy noise. if this sony sensor will give us a nice useable image at high iso's then im sold. I think the GH3 will be amazing. Early web videos shot by "PHOTOGRAPHERS" not "FILMMAKERS" doesnt scare me at all. I know I can make an nice image out of the GH3 and I bet you can to and everyone else here. Thats all that matters really, who can really use the GH3 to its full potential.

@stanlymanly2

I think the GH3 will be amazing. Early web videos shot by "PHOTOGRAPHERS" not "FILMMAKERS" doesnt scare me at all. I know I can make an nice image out of the GH3 and I bet you can to and everyone else here. Thats all that matters really, who can really use the GH3 to its full potential.

BEST POSITIVE COMENT IN 10 PAGES. +1.

GHx series reminds me of the Toyotas amazing 4AGE engine used in Levin/Trueno corollas. Little 1.6 twin cam 4 cilinder engine, 140hp in its last generation 16valve. Its use extended till N2 and Formula atlantic series, natually aspirated making 250hp at 11,000 rpm in Formula 2 type cars . GHx series are like that. Grate handling, runs very good under pressure even overworkloads, high reving with high bitrate, small, complete, and compete with bigger clases, and even then it manages to get in the top 3 in the generals. Lol.

GH2 show us that grate tuning can make this little camera conect solidly in the chin to lots of bigger competing clases. GH3 will be a improved version no doubt. We have to tune it right.

Its in its own class, never big boy, never to small no to consider. GH is like Hachiroku :D We all are the "TRD" racing team from GH series. Developing more for better performance.

Hi, I don't post much here but have a question: Is the lack in sharpness/detail that some people are noticing in comparing GH3 to GH2 footage something that can be helped by a firmware hack to give the GH3 an equivalent definition to a hacked GH2, or is the comparative lack of detail simply part of the sensor the GH3 is stuck with?

@documentary It's as a result of myths perpetuated by folks who want to believe the GH2 has reached a pinnacle in DSLR performance that cannot be surpassed.

Myth #1 - Setting sharpness to -2 in the GH2 removes in-camera sharpening and leads to an accurate representation of the camera's true resolution. Truth: It softens the image to some degree, but we don't know how for sure.

Myth #2 - GH3 set to sharpening level -5 should be equal to a GH2 set on -2. Truth: Panasonic delivered on a request to increase the amount of adjustment range on contrast, sharpness, saturation and noise reduction. We do not actually know if -5 increases softening in the GH3 beyond the GH2 set to -2, but it would certainly be reasonable to assume that is the case. Therefore, all tests shot comparing sharpness -5 and sharpness -2 probably mean absolutely nothing. It is more likely that the GH3 artificially softens the image at that extreme in order to justify the greater range that is now selectable in the menu.

I submit that is much more fair to compare a GH2 and a GH3 that are both set to 0,0,0,0 as it is the closest we can get to Mfr established baseline representative of the benchmark image. Why no one has used 0,0,0,0 settings for comparison once they get their hands on the camera for testing is a mystery to me. It's unlikely a Mfr would create 11 total steps of adjustment just to eliminate artificial sharpening from an image all the way down at -5.