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Coronavirus: Vaccines efficiency
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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @firstbase

    Issue with all this guys is that they use extreme anti scientific approach. They behave more like entertainers. Not like people whoa re really interested in issues.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    Well, I'm FAR more comfortable trusting "boots on the ground" doctors Zelenko, McCullough, Martin, Alexander, Ruby, etc... as opposed to the agenda-driven, highly political so-called "doctors" such as Fauci.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @firstbase

    Dr. Zelenko tells "we need highly educated public" and after two sentences "we are gods children".

    Well, this god thing doesn't stack up with real education and science required to live with modern viruses.

    In Dr. Zelenko we see how good intentions can lead to horrible things if you lack progressive approach and try to rely to outdated and socially unacceptable means.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    And a bit from Dr. Zelenko: https://www.bitchute.com/video/niqV2izw7hv7/

  • firstbasefirstbase

    Early adopters of vaccine are getting even more ill due to ADE: https://rumble.com/vlhxuh-we-have-leaky-vaccines.html

    Also, more on mRNA vaccine injuries. Just under 19,000 European deaths (probably very under-reported) and 1.8 million serious injuries: https://rumble.com/vlhugt-shocking-report-out-about-covid-vaccine-injuries.html

  • firstbasefirstbase

    Dr. Paul E. Alexander science-based commentary on Covid vaccines:

    https://rumble.com/vlgdcb-trump-hhs-expert-dr.-paul-alexander-addresses-trump-vaccine-push.html

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    People such as this lady may tend to disagree:

    https://www.dailyveracity.com/2021/08/19/covid-vaccine-causes-womans-skin-to-rot-according-to-doctors/

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @endotoxic @firstbase

    Guys, you are discussing wrong alternatives.

    Getting vaccine is generally not bad, as your chance on bad outcome is much less.

    But vaccines also proved to be of no total solution that they deemed to be.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @endotoxic I agree. Of course, people who are vaccinated with these experimental, blood-damaging, clot-causing mRNA inoculations have cognitive dissonance and want very badly to defend and reinforce their decision to take them.

    There are many in the medical community who believe that once the vaccinated come in contact with either COVID or any other corona virus, they will experience antibody dependent enhancement and become even more ill than if they had avoided the vaccines altogether. A really bad scenario on the horizon.

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    And people insist on getting a shot. They are really sheep.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @endotoxic

    Not yet. Holding out for a better alternative, if one (or more) becomes available. The rouleaux pattern formation of red blood cells is most troubling and associated with the mRNA vaccines. This is likely the beginning stage of thrombotic activity. Not good!

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    Holy shit. First base, did you get a shot?

  • firstbasefirstbase

    Hopeful for a better vaccine alternative to mRNA versions! mRNA versions seem to cause very disturbing blood anomalies:

    https://rumble.com/vldaex-vaxxed-patients-blood-examined-horrific-findings-revealed-by-german-physici.html

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    The Gamaleya Center of the Russian Ministry of Health has developed a variant of the Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine for the delta strain, said the head of the institution, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Gintsburg.

    He said that the design of the vaccine is already "in the refrigerator", but it is too early to say whether it will be more effective than the previous version, as it is impossible to predict the appearance of new ones, including more dangerous mutations.

    "Nobody ever, except for God and Charles Darwin, does not know how evolution will go. And I do not know either," he said.

    Gunzburg explained that sometimes doctors cannot help a patient "hold out" - for those who have not received the vaccine, when infected with the "delta" strain, the infectious process takes 4-5 days, and not several weeks, as with other options.

    "Our immune system produces antibodies in 10-12-14 days. With other variants of the coronavirus, she managed to do this, and also brilliant resuscitators helped the sick to hold out until the immune system worked. And in the case of the" delta "they do not have time."

    I hear this statement about 4-5 day for the first time ever.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @Meierhans

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260795v1.full.pdf

  • MeierhansMeierhans

    Indeed. Source?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Interesting

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  • firstbasefirstbase

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    All of which begs the question, why inoculate with these experimental spike protein creating mixtures at all?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    American scientists have traced the dynamics of the effectiveness of vaccines over time - the study was conducted from January to July, it was attended by about 180 thousand people vaccinated with drugs from Moderna and Pfizer.

    In July, amid the spread of the delta strain, vaccine efficacy rates dropped sharply.

    "In the context of increasing cases in Minnesota (where the study was originally conducted) during July, mRNA-1273 (Moderna) efficacy against infection was lower than in previous months and did not exceed 76 percent, and BNT162b2 (Pfizer) had an even more pronounced decrease up to 42 percent or less, "the experts say.

    Note that almost 99% of vaccinated people can get sick, just in mild form, and will still spread the virus around.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    More from respected and renown physician Dr. Peter McCullough:

    https://rumble.com/vhp8e1-massive-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @endotixic Yes, I agree with your assessment. Also, emerging info from Israel shows that highly vaccinated nation is spiking with lots of positive covid cases while Palestinians, who aren't vaccinated, are not spiking at all: https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1425187513010987015?s=20

    Of course, IMHO, the rtPCR tests are faulty and designed to show positive results for covid, so there's that!

    I just think we're being duped and played. We're fools for falling for their dubious pseudo-science of tests and vaccinations and I fear they have an alternate and nefarious agenda for those who take their spike protein, graphene oxide jabs.

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    I agree that this is criminal, but the coin has the same face on both sides. This means they always win, whenever they throw the coin. If it’s no the virus is the vaccine if not is any other complication

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @endotoxic

    Not sure what "same face on both sides" means, but I do think there is justifiable and growing concern over these forced inoculations by both laypeople and many in the medical community. Many in the medical industry have been threatened if they spread what is determined to be "misinformation." Blindly following a dogma (experimental vaccines administered by all means necessary) while turning a blind eye to thousands of vaccine-related deaths and many more adverse reactions is NOT good science. It's criminal.

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    This coin has the same face on both sides. @firstbase

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Rates of misinformation about COVID-19 and the COVID-19 vaccines increased dramatically from June to July, according to Zignal Labs, which tracks mentions of phrases on social media and by news outlets. False claims, including statements saying that the vaccines don’t work, immunity from infections is better than vaccination, and vaccines cause miscarriages, skyrocketed. The falsehood that the vaccines don’t work is up 437 percent, the analysis found.

    https://www.theverge.com/22618249/covid-misinformation-surge-delta-russia-vaccine

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