@kurth

And in western culture, this is what most people think of when talking about propaganda...."information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view." It appears to me that your soviet dictionary was written in order for your state to more easily propagandize it's citizens without them being aware they were being manipulated. Bernays, Freud's nephew wrote the book. It's called Propaganda

It appears to me that you do not understand who is doing something and why. As you constantly want to use definitions and books made by enemies, by your ruling class.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02450-x

GDP in Q2

@endotoxic covid 19 is change

That it is

Well definitely this it is...what is wrong is that everyone seems to wish to go back in time before the pandemic to their old shity life...

I never mentioned anything about going back.

This is the new standard. Now they will begin to give you orders on when to go to movies when to have fun when to go to medic check when to study and when to live your fucking life.

Welcome

To the new world war. The real Third World War.

The one between governments and people.

The real one. Where vaccine will be used against you where military force use of it.

Naaa... I’m fine looking at internet data and reality.

But I must admit creativity lately has been on a rise world wide. Don’t you agree vitaliy?

And about war to governments I really think it’s gonna be real long battle for many many years if this shit plan goes though us. Not all people enjoy being harassed by its government. Some really prefer to be a day as a lion than a lifetime as a lamb.

@kurth

you're kinda of like RT. Sometimes there's accurate info about it's enemies....but there's never accurate info about itself. That's a sure sign of propaganda.

You are not young man, as I said, use proper definitions and learn to read more. Will be much much simpler to live.

@Vitaliy.....just your use of 'proper definition' makes my argument so much easier

@Vitaliy....you gave proper definition of propaganda...lenin's definition . Was that the kind of 'proper logic' he used when he rounded up a thousand people and shot them on the spot? This is not 'flame talks'...it's supposed to be the free sharing of information. Maybe your 'proper definition' of "free" is different than mine. And your definition of 'useful' is distorted as well. Let people use their own brains, rather than deleting posts, which you have multiple times because it disagreed with your "useful" information. Beware of anyone who uses 'enemies of the people'. They usually end up putting people in concentration camps.

@kurth

Was that the kind of 'proper logic' he used when he rounded up a thousand people and shot them on the spot?

For long time I ask you to start reading more stuff, you'll find lot of useful things in Lenin works.

Maybe your 'proper definition' of "free" is different than mine. And your definition of 'useful' is distorted as well.

Worst thing is that I have definitions I use always present - http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/16674/good-quote-on-freedom

Contrary to you who try to use some mix of mass media capitalist muddy water level things.

Rather than deleting posts, which you have multiple times because it disagreed with your "useful" information.

Only posts deleted had been extreme propaganda not to wear good mask in corresponding topic after multiple warnings (if you try to do it here or in any place on PV it'll be all same) and pair of posts with personal questions or similar stuff that went into PM (so use Pm for this).

Beware of anyone who uses 'enemies of the people'. They usually end up putting people in concentration camps.

Indeed, but I hope that authors of resource you linked won't make it to the camp and will end in some big hole full of dirty water, it is more appropriate.

@garroulus

Sorry VK but such thing as good or bad doesn't exist... You mentioning once that this thread it's one of the best on the internet and i fully agree...but you didn't made it all by yourself .

If information brings new useful stuff or will allow to save even few lives of people of my class - it is good one. If it is just another rattling of capitalists who want only one - faster open up their business, write fake articles on how masks are not helping because they do not want to pay for them and feed people with similar shit - it is bad info. Even if it is bad info it is extremely rare removed (normal forums are silent about this, but usual deletion and moderation are 10x more strict and never discussed openly).

Just to put in perspective never thought say 5 yers ago that looking for helpful things about cameras well get to this(don't get me wrong im not that sentimental) but world just moves on and that's the whay it is ( mybe I've seen a few hollywood movies)...