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  • Upgrade Gfx card to a newer model i.e. GeForce 9xx-series or 10xx-series?

    May be only upgrade to GTX 1050 Ti - 1070, can get using from mining even :-)

    If memory is not hurdle - it won't help at all.

    Check CPU load/GPU load and ask on Vegas forum people who use same features.

  • I have a Intel i7-4770K CPU, 16 GB RAM and a GeForce GTX680 4GB gfx card.

    All editing is done on a Intel 750 series SSD /(read 2200 MB/s, Write (up to) 900 MB/s.)

    Does it make sense to do any of the following:

    Upgrade to 32 GB RAM?

    Upgrade Gfx card to a newer model i.e. GeForce 9xx-series or 10xx-series?

  • @markr041

    You certainly can afford yourself six core note. :-)

    As for Resolve - it is HEVC that makes the difference, as well as 10bit and more. Vegas is faster compared to Resolve, at least it was on all notebooks I tried.

    Check PM.

  • Sure, but

    1. I cant have supercomputer wherever I travel.
    2. DaVinci Resolve does fine on the same computer, though it does not render hevc.
  • @markr041

    Well, idea to render 4K HEVC in software on i3 is not good one.

  • My last HDR test video (the free version limits videos to 2 minutes):

    This one took only two hours to render. So I am not sure what is going on.

    The only HDR10 rendering option is HEVC, and my attempts to change the default bitrate from 40 Mbps to anything else from the drop-down menu resulted in an instant crash.

  • The good news, great 4K HDR10:

    The bad news: this 1:41 minute video took 12 hours, yes, 12 hours, to render in HEVC using a computer with 16GB RAM, i3 8th generation (no hardware rendering). And, no, this is not my main computer.

  • Here is my first 4K HDR test/trial video made using Vegas 16. It works - from, in this case, Sony Slog2/SGamut->REC2020 HDR10, using ACES in Vegas:

    Notice the Vegas watermark, presumably a result of using trial software.

    Oh, you also get to see the performance of the Sony RX100 V in really low light.

  • @markr041

    Well, I am all for HDR video.

    And it actually will help us a lot if make it good, can help us to get detailed interview of Vegas product lead. :-) Won't hurt, don't you think?

  • @Vitaliy If I can make the Hate video in HDR. So, checking out Vegas Pro 16 HDR capability:

    1. You use the ACES system (OK).

    2. There are input color spaces for all the usual suspects, including Slog2/Sgamut, by temperature (just like on the Sony FS5/FS7)!

    3. The HDR templates for HEVC are HDR10 only. But you can make a 10bit HEVC HDR video with REC2020 color space. Good.

    4. The HEVC template uses hardware encoding if you have an Intel chipset (newer one). Good.

    5. The rendered HDR10 HEVC video has the correct metadata recognized by YouTube. Good.

    In fact, DaVinci Resolve Studio 15 has no 10bit HEVC option or even an H264 10bit option. The only 10bit option in Resolve is Avid HXNHC HQ (whose name I can never remember or spell), which is humongous in size for no good reason except it has an inefficient codec.

    So, Vegas is actually better than Resolve for producing easily HDR10 videos!

  • A useful trick to avoid making extra email addresses: With gmail, if you take your account name and add "+something" to it, it will still come to you.

    So assuming your address were markrrockz@gmail.com, you could use markrrockz+vegassucks@gmail.com. Most websites aren't smart enough to detect the difference.

  • @markr041

    Can you make hate overview video? Promise to put on PV channel without any censorship. Will stand on my totalitarian tail and allow you to show all the power of dark side.

  • It worked! Alternative account with a different e-mail. The e-mail with the key did go to Spam. I had to uninstall the previous trial and install it again. Now to actually try it out...for more hate!

  • If that works, of course, it could because the AI is not smart enough to know its the same hater with a new account!

    Try this, lot of AIs are still too dumb :-)

  • @vitaliy I like the 'hater' idea! On the alternative e-mail - one's login for the account is an e-mail address, which is where then they send the e-mail. To use an alternative e-mail address I would have to create a new account. If that works, of course, it could because the AI is not smart enough to know its the same hater with a new account!

  • @markr041

    May be they test new Ai and it sensed Vegas hater and refused to give you chance to hate it more? LOL.

  • @robertGL Thanks. You are correct that all of my purchased Magix products are in my account with their keys. My account also lists the trial Vegas Pro 16, but there is no serial number or key.

  • DId you access your Magix account? All of my keys are there. @markr041

  • @markr041

    Just use other, even temporary email :-)

    Lot of email servers are set such that they reject email on lot of criteria without it appearing even in spam.

  • @cbells Thanks, but I looked in spam; unless Magix is using 'Jade' as its name or "See my photos", it is not there. I just registered the software again, again got the message that an e-mail was sent. Nothing new in Spam, not even from 'Violette.'

  • @markr041

    check your spam folder for the activation code. That's where mine went

  • @markr041

    Previously, you could just download the trial, which would automatically stop in 30 days. Great. Now, however, you need to get an activation code for the trial. Ok, not a big deal you say. Except, when you register the trial (I am a registered user anyway), you do not get sent the code, at least not within the 24 hours I have waited. And calling support you get no answer within the one hour of calling continuously that I tried. I do get plenty of advertising e-mails from Magix, so my registered e-mail address is perfectly fine.

    Well, it is more stupid managers.

    Magix has been bad news, each new version adds new bugs for old capabilities, adds silly and/or marginal features, and support is terrible. As DaVinci Studio keeps improving, Vegas will disappear. That's capitalism, driving out the bad via competition.

    It is one issue Mark. Until it is lot of choice "driving our the bad" seems fine. Problem is, capitalism is progressive only at this initial stage, after this it becomes not so good. We see more and more forming of duopoly on the NLE market (Avid is left in pro niche only) it is not good. And do not worry, this guys will pull all the guts from you and introduce such protection schemes that current Magix ones will come to you in wet dreams.

  • One of the nice features of Vegas Pro is you could download a full-featured version to test it out. The description of version 16 (see above) is so vague (what HDR is supported exactly?) that using the trial is the only way to assess what exactly is offered. And it is the best way anyway.

    Previously, you could just download the trial, which would automatically stop in 30 days. Great. Now, however, you need to get an activation code for the trial. Ok, not a big deal you say. Except, when you register the trial (I am a registered user anyway), you do not get sent the code, at least not within the 24 hours I have waited. And calling support you get no answer within the one hour of calling continuously that I tried. I do get plenty of advertising e-mails from Magix, so my registered e-mail address is perfectly fine.

    Magix has been bad news, each new version adds new bugs for old capabilities, adds silly and/or marginal features, and support is terrible. As DaVinci Studio keeps improving, Vegas will disappear. That's capitalism, driving out the bad via competition, or possibly making competitors step up their game, but so far the latter is not the case for Magix.

  • UK PR

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