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GH5 Panasonic camera, from anticipation to love or hate
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  • Hi guys. Try to turn the custom AF OFF and set the focus area to 1-area AF and give it a shot. See how you like it.

  • 150mbps is actually incredibly small for 4K50/60 footage- the next smallest format from a "serious" camera I can think of is Canon's MJPEG 4K50/60 in the 1DXmkII, at ~500mbps. From there it jumps up to pro/semi-pro formats like ProRes, R3D, DNxHR, etc- which are bigger still.

    There's no lower bitrate option for 4K50 because 150mbps is already about the bare minimum for 4K50/60 in an h.264 format (at decent quality). If you need to figure out how many cards you need for a full day, just divide your total shooting time by how long each card card gives you. You shouldn't need to do proxy editing if your computer is fast enough. If it isn't, well, that's just the rub for shooting in the latest greatest format (4K at 50fps).

    Did you really think you could buy the newest awesomest camera, and use an old computer and small hard drives to easily edit its footage? That's like buying a Ferrari and then complaining that the insurance and premium gas is expensive.

  • Asking for advice how to optimze stoarage/video editing you guys use when shooting with GH5

    For me, I am now shooting GH5 4K50p 150Mbps with a 64GB SD card I got 2 64GB SD card The problem is the file size are too large and not very friendly to manage in video editing, I need to enable proxy to do the editing which costs me so LONG & eating all of my storage space.

    How do you guys manage the storage with this large size of video?

    And also, how many GBs of SD card you guys bring if you go to shoot a full day event? (say 10 hours), how to manage the storage space? Is there any option to shoot lower bitrate 4K50p video? (e.g. 70-80Mbps)

    Thanks Timothy

  • The Panasonic GH5 has a better DR compared to the Olympus Em1 mk2, quite similar with the Sony A6500 (at least in the shadows).

    One note: in the test, the GH5 DR was measured from ISO 200 (base ISO), the Canon 5D mk4 and the Sony (second image) from ISO 100 cause Dpreview didn't include an ISO 100 for the GH5.

    From what I've seen, there is no visible difference in highlight recovery between ISO 100 and 200 on the GH5 but noise is one stop better (so the DR at ISO 100 must be even better IMO).

    https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr144_0=panasonic_dcgh5&attr144_1=olympus_em1ii&attr144_2=canon_eos5dmkiv&attr144_3=sony_a6500&attr146_0=200_5&attr146_1=200_5&attr146_2=100_6&attr146_3=100_6&attr177_1=off&attr177_2=off&normalization=compare&widget=462&x=0.1928087915333984&y=0.4833430715456325

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  • Review

    Video quality takes a noticeable step up from the GH4, particularly in 4K modes, thanks to full sensor video capture with oversampling. Additionally, temporal noise, low light performance, and rolling shutter have all been improved. In-body stabilization, and Dual IS 2, make it possible to create very stable footage, even with third party lenses.

    The only place you really give up any quality is when using the Variable Frame Rate mode in 1080p to shoot fast frame rates (up to 180fps). Resolution appears to drop noticeably, though in exchange you get access to the higher frame rates for extreme slow motion effects.

    https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-gh5

  • Slomo shots with 4K/60p/f5.6 (AF-Test) + 180p

    Music: Symphony 9 d_moll Op. 125 by Ludwig van Beethoven

  • Confucius say, "Waxing Brighton man, with verbose name, who offer new Moon and waned, NOT deserve to get kit nick'd in Pigeon Poo Scam."

    Policia say, "...focus shifting slowly to Lummox GH5 theft suspects"

  • “For the price it is that they expect :-)” hence I’ll be moving on and sending my gh5 back even though I have less expensive “not professional ;-)” camcorder that does better job in run-and-gun situations.

  • Seems as if people are expecting to just open the box, and the camera to jump out, climb on a tripod, and shoot them flawlessly in 4k60p while they do their thing.

    For the price it is that they expect :-)

    and the first content they've created is about how this camera is preventing them from becoming "content creators".

    Smart move, isn't it?

  • Obviously, there are more people that shoot themselves while complaining about something than I could've ever imagined. Don't you guys have friends or someone to control the camera?

    Seems as if people are expecting to just open the box, and the camera to jump out, climb on a tripod, and shoot them flawlessly in 4k60p while they do their thing. Suddenly everyone is a "content creator", desperately needing a selfie video device, and the first content they've created is about how this camera is preventing them from becoming "content creators".

  • @EspenB

    It seems that GH5 is an AMAZING CAMERA as long as you - don't use it! AF is Fantastic as long as as you don't use the acctual camera monitor and or camera internal recording?! Image Artifacts are nonexistant if you-use external recorder?!?! Picture is stunning if you record it -Externaly?!?! Quality that you can get out of this camera is-well will be Unprecedent, one day in future, in a year or so, when they come up with a new firmware...or acctualy maybe not, realy...

    WTF?!?!!!!!?

    I mean, truly, seems like Panasonic made a camera that nobody ever did: Best CAMERA IN THE WORLD - as long as its not turn on. Then all the problems become obvious...

    Quite what I expected:(

    Let me ask all the FANBOYS of this camera:

    Who is this camera made for realy? For what kind of application?! Please Tell me... (and I will prove you that out there there are a way way way better price/perfomance pieces of gear, superior options that the acctualy users can choose...and the only reason why GH5 became a big deal is thanks to Panasonic marketing and naivite of the dreamfull masses...)

  • @MorganD

    Barcelona's fine. It's no worse than any other big city.

    • I suppose that is sorta good news for users of external recorders, but I can see its mainly gimbal users who really want the auto focus to work well.
  • Regrading GH5 auto focus issues:

    The most positive test for auto focus speed was with an external recorder only. And thus totally flawed.

    When you use internal recording almost all procesing power seems to be taken from the auto focus calculations and used to encode the bitstream instead.

    This should not come as a big surprise as auto focus is worse in 4K mode vs HD mode also on the GH4.

    Apparently the auto focus works even better if you don't record at all on the GH5.

    Please see page 166 in the "Operating Instructions for Advanced Features" for the GH5:

    "To ensure highly accurate focus, 4K motion pictures are recorded at reduced auto focus speeds. It might be difficult to focus on the subject with Auto Focus, but this is not an malfunction."

    Sine auto focus seems to be substantially better as long as you don't record anything, this suggest that the CPU runs out of steam during actuall recording. Even more so in 4K mode.

    They shoud have added an extra auto focus processor! ;-)

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  • @timqqq

    It depends on your intended delivery format....ie broadcast or Internet etc

    If you are editing on a 25p timeline shoot 25p for most subjects unless the subject is fast moving like sports etc.....then shooting 50p and edit on a 50p timeline for 50p delivery would be better.

    The advantage to shooting@ 50p for a 25p edit is you will get a perfect 50% slo-mo with no interpolated frames​ if you need it...

    Whereas 25p 4k 10 bit 422 obviously gives more accurate color...if you are delivering to internet this color depth advantage is somewhat lost when MP4 encoding is done on upload (that etc)

    There is no one size fits all... You need to take into account many considerations before choosing a recording format.