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PTool v3.62d topic
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  • proaudio4proaudio4
    Mistan,
    what did you mean by "Noise at 3200 is insane"?
    I imagine the higher bitrate and quantizer improvement for static detail is allowing the codec to really display the "true" sensor output. This is very good news. I imagine shadow detail now has a lot more clarity!
    This is a game changer!
  • proaudio4proaudio4
    Chris,
    Thank you for your great work with the new ptool AND Happy Birthday!
    That's dedication man!
  • stoneystoney
    Happy b-day Chris

    I can't wait to try this patch when I go home. Thanks!!!
  • mistanmistan
    1st off, Happy Birthday Chris!
    Man this new version is incredible. I just tried some of my own semi-extreme settings (88mbit, gop3, and Auto Quant to 3 for most to details). It looks AMAZING. Tried my hardest to break the encoder and my camera hasnt locked up yet. I've gotten up to 92-94mbit at times and no lockups so far. Noise at 3200 is insane, event in EX mode. It baffles my mind.
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    just look at my auto-assigned avatar to understand the face I make while reading about quantizilizationalizering
  • ishvarishvar
    did a lot of night testshots @ recomended settings with GOP3 - 2 m.t. detail 1080p - and had macroblocking for a blimp in one shot. The footage is very detailed and the grain looks finer - 1600 iso is very nice!
    I am still not shure which GOP settings to chooose (for slow camera movements on gliders and steadi)
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    Yes, I'll give it a try. Honestly, though . . . it is difficult for someone (me) with no knowledge of GOP, Bitrate, Quantizer to figure out what the heck boxes to check off in PTools. I'm running 3.61 with just the simple suggested bitrate changes, because I could figure out what those were supposed to do, but keeping up on reading the threads on all this other stuff is just too much for me. Its all very interesting, but translating it over to "which box do I check in PTools" is brain-scrambling.
  • cbrandincbrandin
    New ideas keep coming up. My guess is that there will be several more. I think this was the "bug fix" versions with some new stuff added. This version of PTool is already better than the GH1 PTool - no reason not to start using it.

    Chris
  • MihuelMihuel
    @B3Guy
    It may also depend on you :-) and Vitaliy and Chris. Of course you can hire Vitaliy to this project so he I can allocate 100% of time on it ;-). This is very hard work.
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    As someone who has not been following this since the GH1 days, how many versions of PTools do you expect to release before settling on a final version?
  • cbrandincbrandin
    Thanks guys.

    Chris
  • brudneybrudney
    Happy BDay Chris, thank you for your hard work guys:]
  • MihuelMihuel
    @Vitaliy
    Yes Sir !!!
  • MihuelMihuel
    Happy birthday to you Chris!!
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    @Mihuel
    @OSGondar

    Please use Extreme Settings topic for this, ok?
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    >If so, we owe Vitaliy and Chris a rack of brew!

    Especially Chris.
    First, because without him this version couldn't be released.
    Second because he is spending his time answering your questions in this topic today.
    During his birthday. Insane, isn't it?
  • MihuelMihuel
    This is not professional test but I see constant behaviour of codec after 34 frame.Settings are from cbrandin 66Mbit suggestion.
    P.S. GOP 6
    Michal
    Cbrandin 66Mbit.JPG
    1289 x 768 - 159K
  • OSGondarOSGondar
    @proaudio4 I already addressed that typo always refresh before posting and #2 i am using x3 settings and so far visually i notice improvement but in stream parser the frames look similar, I have to do more testing to compare accurately like in real world setting later today, at the very least i can report that x3 no crashes or hang ups so thus far stable good looking setting.
  • proaudio4proaudio4
    Chris,
    Man, I have to go on a business trip to California. I'm wanting so badly to try the new ptool!
    I won't be able to until this Saturday afternoon. ;(

    I will try your 3X thoughts for 24H outlined below:

    24H @ 66mbps, 6 GOP, Auto Quantizer for 1080 modes = 3-Most to details
    1080p24 FB1 = 2350080
    1080p24 Frame Limit = 23592960
    1080p24 FB2 = 2952069

    thxs again
    Steve
  • TomasoTomaso
    @Angry_C True for 24H 32mbit but at the same time 24L 26mbit had. Now it is OK.
  • cbrandincbrandin
    @OSGondar

    Right. Sorry -fat fingers. I fixed the typo, the set file is correct, however.

    Chris
  • OSGondarOSGondar
    @cbrandin shouldn't your 1080p24 Frame Limit = 15728460 not 1572840?
  • danyyyeldanyyyel
    Perhaps the silliest question, some where saying that the gh2 banding (8bit mainly seen in sky) was a bit more pronounced than other camera and that it was perhaps because of the codec (low bitrate on static scene or large uniform surface). Perhaps it was dropping too much because of the codec settings and that perhaps a lower fixed bit-rate would help reduce it. Has anyone seen if there is any difference now.
  • rigsrigs
    Great work on the lattest ptool for the GH2 guys. Any chance of getting some of the new GH2 features working on the GH1
  • ishvarishvar
    Just shot some tests with VK highest's settings. Used GOP3 and 2 more to details in 1080. Very nice shadow-details indeed! You guys fixed one of the main shortcomings of GH2, t.i. blackened shadows! I am so glad there are no glitches anymore @ the beginning! Camera writes really a lot faster to card c.t. Ptools 1.61 with same settings and gives therefore a much more stable impression/feeling and workspeed on scene!!
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