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  • Who pushed Nazis and gave them weapons:

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  • “Putin can surround Kyiv with tanks, but he will never get the souls and hearts of the Iranians,” Biden said.

  • Arguably, the lethal weapon in Russia’s arsenal of responses has been identified by the head of the Center for Economic Research of the Institute of Globalization and Social Movements (IGSO), Vasily Koltashov: the key is to confiscate technology – as in Russia ceasing to recognize US rights to patents.

    In what he qualifies as “liberating American intellectual property,” Koltashov calls for passing a Russian law on “friendly and unfriendly states. If a country turns out to be on the unfriendly list, then we can start copying its technologies in pharmaceuticals, industry, manufacturing, electronics, medicine. It can be anything – from simple details to chemical compositions.” This would require amendments to the Russian constitution.

    Koltashov maintains that “one of the foundations of success of American industry was copying of foreign patents for inventions.” Now, Russia could use “China’s extensive know-how with its latest technological production processes for copying western products: the release of American intellectual property will cause damage to the United States to the amount of $10 trillion, only in the first stage. It will be a disaster for them.”

    Copyright also can be part of the story.

    And note that all major CHina companies can suddenly have branch or two here.

  • American Express suspends cooperation with partners in Russia.

    Boeing has suspended maintenance and technical support for aircraft of Russian airlines.,

    US companies continue the act of mass suicide,

    As no one except under direct order will use or buy their products now.

  • "May god protect our troops. Go get him." State of the union of the USA.

  • It's deeply depressing to see Russia fall victim to far-right geopolitical warmongering.

    To appreciate the depth of the problem, I have some reading for you:

    https://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundations-geopolitics

  • Huge encirclement is forming around main forces after their leadership and generals had been wiped out today:

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  • @AndrewReid_EOSHD

    Your President is an isolated man today. His inner circle and the banks have a golden bridge to escape over whenever they choose to take it. Putin however is like the rat he cornered as a young kid. He is fearful and has no other options but to lash out.

    Stop listening to propaganda, as you just retranslate stuff here.

    Most people have political opinions. People with political thoughts want to have a say in how their country is run.

    It is no longer time for opinions. As I posted two leading liberal strongholds who started to post their usual proclamations are shut down. Few next will follow soon.

    Of course capitalism is an incredibly unequal situation for the world. However, look at the intelligence, athleticism and size of your country. There is absolutely no reason why it can't do better.

    And it will do better, just on our own terms.

    Just stop and think. The old order is dead and now the curtain will open for you to experience that other people experienced all this time.

    Capitalism is always the war - but you did not care about people at Donbass, you had many fun things to do. And now reality will come to first make your life miserable (your propaganda guys never told you that your expenses on basic things will quadruple?).

    West is still very strong. Russia can fall into the trap, it is possible.

    But.... Ālea iacta est

  • Competition is good, but not to the death.

    Your President is an isolated man today. His inner circle and the banks have a golden bridge to escape over whenever they choose to take it. Putin however is like the rat he cornered as a young kid. He is fearful and has no other options but to lash out.

    Most people have political opinions. People with political thoughts want to have a say in how their country is run.

    Of course capitalism is an incredibly unequal situation for the world. However, look at the intelligence, athleticism and size of your country.

    There is absolutely no reason why it can't do better.

    So why isn't it?

  • @AndrewReid_EOSHD

    Andrew, you are not in school, you are grown man, but you talk like child, like all this confused females in EU goverments.

    99% of people on this Earth just want to get on with their family life, jobs, eat well, and live in peace.

    Capitalism doesn't work this way. If you are used to have warm bed and no problems it does not mean it is same for everyone else - some people who made you stuff you are using or wearing are not.

    It is a disgrace to me that nuclear weapons still exist and I don't care who is to blame. Americans, Russians, I don't care.

    Nuclear weapons are now the only reason you are still not marching in column under waving flags to kill Russian scum.

  • Let's assume Putin will take Ukraine (and it is far from certain) what has he achieved other than to murder many of your Soviet cousins, speed up the total decimation of his economy, his own grip on power and his country?

    And I don't think Russia should justify bad things by suggesting that the West have been doing it, getting away with similar, and so on. Russia should be better than this. Leave the "eye for an eye" bullshit to Iran.

    Everybody needs to calm down before we raise the stakes and bring up the risk of ending all life on the planet.

    It is a disgrace to me that nuclear weapons still exist and I don't care who is to blame. Americans, Russians, I don't care.

    99% of people on this Earth just want to get on with their family life, jobs, eat well, and live in peace.

    Hatred is a form of slow suicide.

  • Echo of Moscow - main pro western liberal station is turned off. Very good news.

  • @G3550D

    In 20th century we not only had friends with the west, but main team of traitors who destroyed Soviet Union and made main capitalist laws in 1987 had been... authors of current gas pipes system and exports of fertilizers. Big friends with Germany, Italy and others.

    Official talks started in 1963.

    Today the BBC sent a reporter to a village in Siberia that was the home of a recently captured Russian soldier. No one, not even his own mother, even knew the young man was in the Ukrain, let alone captured. No one interviewed seemed to understand what the war was about.

    You are not idiot. And BBC journalist scum also not dumb. In real war it is prohibited to tell exact location of soldiers, as well as give them communication means during active operation time. And I can make interviews look the way I want, if I am pro (and BBC guy is). Ally you need it cut properly and select proper people takes.

    This is how imperialist states operate, not democratic ones.

    You live in imperialist state, all major capitalist countries are imperialist states.

    Read this article, after this print it and hand near your bed -

    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/24970/socialism-on-liberals-and-bad-dicatatorships#Item_8

  • @Vitaly Throughout the twentieth century you had friends in the West who were prepared to understand the somersaults of Soviet foreign policy. When it built up the Spanish Republic and then when it abandoned it. When it was in street fights with German Nazi thugs, and when it formed a pact with Hitler, and gratefully later when Russia fought Hitler and took such great punishment. You had some people in the West who understood all that and stayed with you. Some stayed with you through Hungary and Czechoslovakia. When you annexed Crimea, some people wondered if, for reasons of geography, ethnicity and local sympathies there, maybe you could argue that you had some justification. But please, make no mistake, you have no friends here that I know of in this cruel adventure that you are now undertaking and, if you remain sane, you will live to regret that.

    Today the BBC sent a reporter to a village in Siberia that was the home of a recently captured Russian soldier. No one, not even his own mother, even knew the young man was in the Ukrain, let alone captured. No one interviewed seemed to understand what the war was about. This is how imperialist states operate, not democratic ones.

  • @AndrewReid_EOSHD

    It is not about statistics. You do not understand basic definitions and laws of economics and politics.

    You are not stupid and obviously you can't oppose any core points from article that I gave you.

    Putin's men have spent billions on sponsorships, investments, social media, traditional media, political influence and donations.

    Don't you see difference? Same time west spent 100x more on their propaganda machine.

    Are you really trying to deny the power of Russian influence and disinformation? As if it's a side show?

    Get back from VR where you live.

    He is encouraging the cracks to widen. It really is that simple.

    We is not making cracks with words, he is doing it with missiles and tanks.

    Ask yourself what all this chaos and murder archives for YOU and YOUR country.

    Life is dirty Andrew. You just lived too long at the top floor where you don't see it. Now we'll pull you back down, and we just began doing right this.

  • I do not accept this statistical right vs wrong discussion, it's not important. It is not seeing the wood for the trees. If you endorse this war, you are complicit in murder. It really is that simple.

    Putin's men have spent billions on sponsorships, investments, social media, traditional media, political influence and donations.

    It is all documented evidence.

    Are you really trying to deny the power of Russian influence and disinformation? As if it's a side show?

    It helped determine the course of recent history.

    Putin knows where the fault lines are in our societies and in liberalism. He is encouraging the cracks to widen. It really is that simple.

    Ask yourself what all this chaos and murder archives for YOU and YOUR country.

  • The fall of local liberal pillars

    The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation demanded to restrict access to "Echo of Moscow" and "Rain" *

    “Echo of Moscow and the Dozhd TV channel publish false information about the actions of the Russian military as part of a special operation to protect the DPR and LPR,” the Prosecutor General’s Office said.

    Both are total pro west media.

  • @AndrewReid_EOSHD

    Andrew, rise up, you are smart!

    I watch Russian state sponsored media. I know for certain that Russia has a pyramid shaped leadership, authoritarian to the core. The media you have in Russia is the most biased and deceitful anywhere in the world.

    I specially pinned for you thing you still did not even read

    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/24970/socialism-on-liberals-and-bad-dicatatorships#Item_8

    Because you can't understand BASICs of capitalism and "democracy".

    We are only just realising the scale of the Russian money, campaign of influence, disinformation techniques and internet subversion.

    Get back to reality, it is not about "influence" and similar bullshit. It is about real stuff now.

    The fall of the Soviet Union was a disaster for Putin and his hatred for Western liberalism and democracy has festered for decades. It is not surprising now to find ourselves at War.

    Hatred for Western liberalism happened here in 90s already, elites just contained it.

    And hatred is materialistic because metropolies robbed colonies while using nice words, and Russian people are not used to be colony. Each country who tried to make it such paid dearly.

    I suggest Vitaliy that you turn off Russia Today and listen to what the people of the Ukraine are saying about the war and especially listen to those who are witnessing their young children die in the back of ambulances because of a war between capitalism and Putinism.

    I don't watch TV for many years, so I have nothing to turn off. I watched RT last time on youtube months ago for 1-2 minutes.

    Andrew - as I told you, read, educate, understand.

    Instead you come and retell me bullshit story that west propaganda is pushing in the children of the poor and educated.

  • @AndrewReid_EOSHD "Trump was the result of a social media campaign of disinformation and a proxy war." This is laughable. How do I know: trust me, I'm an expert. In 2017 I defended my Master's thesis in Intelligence studies (in a NATO country) on the topic of Influence operations, using the 2016 US presidential elections as one of the case studies. I argued (successfully of course) that there has been an influence campaign from Russia, besides the hacking of the DNC servers (this bit was likely true, but one cannot just trust the US cyber command when they say "these guys did it").

    I have since come around, having uncovered more intel (it was making the rounds in the scholarly circles like a true butt joke one cannot publish, though I think it did get coverage in the US press eventually). We can equally say that teenagers from a remote village in North Macedonia tilted the US elections in Trump's favor, by setting up "news" websites with collations of facts and conspiracy theories, and reaping the ad traffic from the many millions hits they received from the conservative viewership in the US. There was simply a huge appetite in the US for that sort of content, and hungry enterprising kids in North Macedonia delivered it. This was uncovered by an investigation started by intelligence offices in the area, when expensive sports cars started appearing on the streets of those remote village(s). They followed the money, got to the ad payments, and the websites. It's the sort of thing too weird to contemplate, but nevertheless fact. 'Russia bad' is the easier sell.

    Trump won because it was time for someone like Trump to rise to the fore. The US is tearing itself apart culturally, and soon geographically, and Trump's election was the first clear data point in this progression.

  • Intelligent people tend to overthink things and stack the statistics one on top of the other until they think they know the truth. But the situation is much more simple than that which Vitaliy would like us to believe, and usually his only argument against my points is that I'm the stupid one who needs to read more and understand more statistically.

    You don't need statistics when you have fundamental evidence of a widespread Russian campaign of influence and systematic disinformation in the West.

    I watch Russian state sponsored media. I know for certain that Russia has a pyramid shaped leadership, authoritarian to the core. The media you have in Russia is the most biased and deceitful anywhere in the world.

    It is time Soviet and socialist values were protected in Russia under new leadership and a new leadership structure, without the deceit and murder being default defensive measures Putin uses to "achieve" this. (He isn't achieving it by the way, quite the opposite).

    "Special military operation".

    "De-nazification"

    "We will not invade Ukraine".

    Sometimes the amount of time between the statement and disproving it can be measured in milliseconds.

    When nothing is true, anything is possible.

    In Modern Russia with the help of his media and his coin banks, Putin is able to build public consensus for whatever bullshit ideology he wants.

    Trump was the result of a social media campaign of disinformation and a proxy war.

    Brexit was the result of a geopolitical playbook move to isolate the UK from Europe. The UK is home to NATO's European Nuclear deterrent. The links between the Leave campaign and Russian money is proven with hard evidence. It isn't a matter of opinion or mainstream media speculation. It is about weakening NATO and the EU both in terms of the economy, and the societal schism between our people it created.

    In the West we have been stupid and slow to act. We are only just realising the scale of the Russian money, campaign of influence, disinformation techniques and internet subversion.

    The fall of the Soviet Union was a disaster for Putin and his hatred for Western liberalism and democracy has festered for decades. It is not surprising now to find ourselves at War.

    I suggest in order to prevent the current events turning into a nuclear war and a nuclear winter, Putin is not further isolated and is brought to the negotiating table, it may have to be a necessary evil to neutralise Ukraine even if the majority of Ukrainian people do not want this and are willing to DIE to maintain independence from the Russian government and military.

    I suggest Vitaliy that you turn off Russia Today and listen to what the people of the Ukraine are saying about the war and especially listen to those who are witnessing their young children die in the back of ambulances because of a war between capitalism and Putinism.

    It is simple.

    It is not about statistics.

    It is about humanity.

  • @RoadsidePicnic Please be clear. Are you supporting Putin's invasion of Ukraine or not?

  • I don't think a brigade size openly nazist para unit fits the definition of a small number of crackpots neither the political and military training dispensed by said crackpots in their area of operation to foreign militants whose organizations just aquired large numbers of military grade gear fit the definition of hooliganism. It just happens to fit the definition of spreading nazist and fascist terrorism and coups. It's old news.

    Nazists and fascists strategy for the present have not been to declare an body of government but to embed into it and to strenght themselves materially and politically. We are not in a stage were "fasci states" are sound, but it looks like fasci armies (all paraphernalia included) are sound in Ukraine since euromaiden. It's not some groups of drunken hooligans, you're basing your perception on your neighbour, these are military units playing into hardpolitics. I'm not in favour of any act in abstract, I'm not into Putin, but given what we have I'm certainlly not defending Ukraine coup politicians neither nazi paras and hope they vanish. This scenario was arround for quite some time, again if war have not broke out in Ukraine it would broke out because of Ukraine (and US, and UK, etc) in another place or time soon.

    By SA I mean South America, but yeah...

  • @RoadsidePicnic There are small numbers of crackpots who call themselves Nazis all over the world and that includes Eastern Europe and, increasingly, America. They often have connections with small groups of football supporters (as in Ukraine) but it is just laughable to say that the current Ukrainian governemnt is Nazi. I have no strong feelings for monarchy and, as for Malvinas or Falklands, I was against that. We were 'lucky' there and had the tacit support of the USA - as well as very competent forces. But for us, the 'winners', it kept Thatcher in power whereas the 'losing' Argentinians got rid of a tyrant.
    During Apartheid times I was outside the SA embassy a number of times and later Mandela came to London to thank everyone who had been part of the Anti-Apartheid movement. I have a fond memory from years later of going to the embassy to collect a visa for my daughter to work at AIMS in Cape Town. The black guy who served me was still learning his job but his pride in being there was humbling. I am sorry you appear to be defending the Russian invasion of Ukraine.