GX1: Official topic

Mimirsan

Heres a thing that has pissed off the Panafans is that this is still a young system yet were already starting to slowly get incompatible lenses for 2 year old cameras.
Its not a good move by panny...I can see they want to sell more bodies but wheres the investment and are we going to keep buying new body new lens everytime?

I would not be suprised at all if the older lenses 20mm f1.7 included will be incompatible with newer m43 cameras in a few years.

Man im cynical! haha

stoney

GX1 will be selling like hotcakes if it has built-in ND filters. Otherwise I don't see any compelling reason to upgrade from GF13. Also no AVCHD 2.0 of course. Oh GF1 doesn't support new X lenses fully.

amateur

i saw that the 20mm will come in x lens by rumors can someone confirm is unclear...

TRADUCTED WORDS:
Chamber: 20mm (LUMIX G 20mm F1.7 ASPH.), Such as single-focus lens and has so far out in the LUMIX G-Series will also come in a single focus X. Leica is also a special brand further. We believe in doing it ad hoc Ikere three pronged lines

source : www.43rumors.com/panasonic-interview-with-dc-watch/ ???

stoney

About good noise reproduction from GF1, I meant GF1's noise control on photos not videos.

About the title of this thread, GX1 being rebadged GF1 with a better sensor, faster AF, and more powerful processor… sure it could be the best m43 "photo" camera until GH3. Then GX2 then GH4...

stoney

GX1 with 14-42X around $1K. I recall GF1 with 14-45 was about the price in 2009. Just in two years, after so much money printing, it's amazing that the same dollars can buy a better product. It won't compete with NEX-7. But GX1 body only half the price of NEX-7 sounds enticing. Just like GF1, the price is likely cut in half in a year. Usual 50% haircut. I love Panasonic.

amateur

if iso are similar of ep-3 im done http://www.digital-photography-school.com/olympus-pen-e-pl3-review

why panasonic scear to rival with their others camera they depend of previous features or what ? we all know that gh2 sensor are little similar then see much better in moire but in low light i think af100 got it.

if iso are okay to iso 800 thats acceptable....

oscillian

@stonebat

+1

Right on the money!

stoney

They gotta kill G line.

GF is set. No hotshoe. Small compact.

GX should target rangefinder enthusiasts. Built-in EVF is a-must. This model should entice current G owners.

GH should become more beefy. Let's be frank. GH2 is neither compact nor cute. We buy it for features. Add more features. Make the body more solid. I don't mind if it increases the overall body dimensions. In fact I would like to see more manly GH3. And do something about missing eyecup holder.

Stop playing the senseless sensor game. Just use all models with the latest GH sensors. Geez...

Mimirsan

@stonebat
Nobody will miss me matey! As for the links you showed..ive no problem with the GF1 output...Its great (but not so much above iso 400) the newer G cameras have too much smearing and colours are off.

John_Farragut

@LPowell I had horrible horizontal lines in GH1. Don't mind the noise character in RAW of the GF1, though.

LPowell

@stonebat - "Actually I hope GX1 reproduces noise like GF1. "

The image sensor in the GF1 (and GF2, GF3...) sucks, it was twice as noisy as the GH1.

stoney

How much you paid for 14-150? There's a way to get 14-140 at cheap price. Panasonic Direct is selling GH2 with 14-140 at $1199. Free shipping. Tax free. Sell the body around $700. After paying ebay fees, you are getting a brand new 14-140 at $550 :)

DrDave

I think the GH2 is a very good stills camera. Always take it on trips, and I throw the feather light Olly 40-150 in the bag as well with the 20mm, which is remarkably sharp for a budget lens.

stoney

We know someone just like Mr. Kwon.

Seb Farges makes nice videos without color grading, noise reduction, or image stabilization during post-processing.

EOSHD

I like Mr Kwon's attitude!

stoney

Mr.Kwon is prolly the most famous m43 photographer in Korea. He's been using GF1 for a year. People got stunned by his photos and asked him.

Did you use a tripod? No
Did you crop? No
Did you take raws? No
Did you apply post-processing? No
How come? It's stressful.
Ah...

amateur

hope so...

stoney

@amateur GF2 has girly noise. I guess girls don't appreciate manly noise from GF1. Hopefully GX1 brings the tradition back.

stoney

@Mimirsan Don't leave m43. Otherwise we will miss you!!!

amateur

if you are right about the gf1 noise it is funny that panasonic miss to do good noise like gf2, 3...
it is question of buisness?

stoney

Actually I hope GX1 reproduces noise like GF1. GF2 smears detail too much. GF3 sits between GF1 an GF2.

G3 smears detail by applying more noise reduction, too. I heard GX1 uses a different process from G3.

amateur

nice pictures from the gf3, in the end much, without noise :) anyways now we are just waiting for some pictures test. By recents test the g3 is better is low light than the gh2 but in my knowledge i don't very know if that new processing engine will do some diffenrence. what you think?

stoney

You mean a rangefinder style true L1 successor? NEX-7 looks closer to L1.

I think Panasonic is doing it right. What's the point of releasing a pro m43 body without a pro m43 lenses? 12-35 and 35-100 are going to be the first pro m43 lenses. I'm expecting a pro m43 body next year. The only problem is expected high price.

I just don't have money and energy and time for switching different systems. Panasonic m43 body and lenses actually saved me money. My only complaint was not-so-great photos from m43 bodies. But the guy's photos totally changed my perception.

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=panasonic_forum&page=10&divpage=16&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=84253
http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=panasonic_forum&page=15&divpage=16&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=84069
http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=panasonic_forum&page=17&divpage=16&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=84002

I've been enjoying taking JPEGs out of camera. No cropping. No adjustment whatsoever. It's pure joy.

Mimirsan

I hear ya
But they've had nearly over two years to get right or at least go in the right direction ;-)

stoney

GH2 can't take a good photo? Try these spicy peppers.

If you are happy with 5n, please post more wonderful things about 5n in http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/21359. I would like to hear.

Incremental updates are annoying... but I sorta like it. That's how to buy m43 lenses cheap. The pancake zoom... sure I want it... when GX1 kit price drops a lot. Those incremental bodies are kit bodies :). Sell them. Keep lenses.

One day they will get it right. I will wait.

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