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Driftwood Cluster X series 3:│moon T7│ЅріzZ T6│Nebula T7│Drewnet T9│
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  • htfhtf

    hi there! just wondering if there is a recommended film mode to go with whilst using moon t5 (t7 respectively)? many seem to be using smooth -2-2 0 -2, is that the one final solution? will be shooting indoors with controlled lighting, maybe that's helpful to know.

    also, is the sandisk 64 gb 45mb/s sure to span with t7?

    thanks for your answers,

    david

  • Jim_SimonJim_Simon

    @IVIaverick52 Do you have any data on that? I'm not finding any difference in the literature from the SD Association other than the minimum write speeds. You'd think the higher rated card would work fine, but it just didn't.

  • TjaboTjabo

    @IVIaverick52, I agree completely with the hope that Driftwood will share some of his GH4 insight with us! Furthermore, I don't know if it's possible in the least, but as I go back and forth between Moon T7 footage and GH4 footage, I can't help but ponder the AMAZING possibilities of a GH4 hack... :)

    Currently I think I prefer the Moon T7 24L output over the GH4's 1080 all-I output, and I THINK I prefer the GH4s C4K over the Moon T7. The Moon T7 24H footage definitely seems to tax cards and my computer more than the GH4's 4K, which surprises me, and that is a plus for the GH4. But WOW, the Moon T7 image is so nice, even if slightly less detailed than the 4K. :)

  • IVIaverick52IVIaverick52

    @Jim_Simon I guess the U3 cards use a different writing standard that the GH2 can't properly utilize. I have a 64GB Transcend U3 for my GH4 and it's never given me a single issue in any mode (200 Mb intra, C4K, and VFR all work perfectly).

    @TATZU I'm guessing he's been pretty busy, and I'm personally hoping that he's getting the chance to fiddle with the GH4 to share some insight with us. I'd like to think the GH2 hacks would last forever, but I think we have reached the summit for the best patches it will have. Cluster X is pretty darn great.

  • darkraymonddarkraymond

    @Arti_G the speed of Transcend sdxc card 64gb 600x is not enough with moon t7. I have tried.

  • TATZUTATZU

    @driftwood Is T8 Cancelled? I been checking in everyday for months. If it is I would like to know so i can relax and just accept the fact its cancelled. I know you posted it was supposed to be released along time ago and since then it's been silence. Thanks!

  • Jim_SimonJim_Simon

    @Arti_G

    I recently tested the Transend 128 GB U3 card that is supposed to work with the GH4's 200 Mb/s mode. Forget spanning, the recording stopped on my GH2 within mere seconds, even on the 50 Mb/s 24L mode. I'm not sure how folks are getting this card to work on the GH4.

    I returned it for the SanDisk Extreme 128 GB card, which works beautifully at 24H with Moon T7. Spans fine, too.

  • electonicelectonic

    Yes. Look at my post a page or two back. I've used 600x and 300x Transcend with Moon T7. But 64 GB versions. Both work fine.

  • lonely1lonely1

    @Arti_G

    Hi, in reply of your question: Sandisc Ultra 64 GB (90 mb/s) works fine with Moon Trial 7 even in 24h mode. I use that SDXC card all the time for longer recording times. However i don't know about Transcend cards, never used those before.

  • Arti_GArti_G

    Has anyone tried Transcend sdxc card 64gb 300x premium with moon t7? Or Sandisk Ultra 64gb? Is it worth, does it span or fail? I try to find any info but no luck.

  • marcioconsmarciocons

    @Celullo, thanks for the recommendations, my friend. I just bought the GH2 and I am still getting used with this camera, since I use Nikon/Canon for years. As told before, I found this patch called Canis Majoris (Night), from Driftwood, and was thinking that would be a good choice to deal with High ISO noise. I am using prime lens with high aperture to deal with this. What I found is that with ISO above 800, we do need to apply noise reduction software if we want a clean image. So far, details, contrast and definition is preserved, at least with ISO 1600. Yesterday, I did a quick test using a CCTV Lens, called Michael Lens 35 1.6 HD Movie Lens. By the way, this dirty cheap lens is fantastic.

  • CelulloCelullo

    @marciocons, unfortunately there is no magic patch to work in low light condition, high iso will bring you noise/grain, if you don't want to manage to much noise try to work with fast aperture (so lower you iso), or bring light for your subject. In the video below I shoot everything with a 50mm f/1.4 and I tried to not set iso over 1250 but for the birds sequence the light was from a projector and it was very hard to manage in post (lot of flickering, and bad global illumination), for the final sequence it was dark but the fair was full of flashy bulb, so no need to go above 320 iso. Try to set NR to 0 when working on high iso and set it back to -2 when working under 800iso.

  • powderbankspowderbanks

    @marciocons Both of these I shot with Moon Trial 5. And I'm 99% sure they were both shot at ISO 3200, if not 6400.

    This one I didn't bother to grade it, I liked how it looked as it was.

    This one I had run some light noise reduction, but looking at it now I don't think it was really necessary. This was with an SMC/Takumar 55/1.8

    I don't think the noise is that bad at those high of ISO's. The noise pattern isn't that bad, especially if you can get enough light in a scene or a fast enough lens, it should be fine.

  • siestajohnsiestajohn

    Moon T7 samyang 16mm f2.0
    separate audio on a Tascom with a Sony lapel mic

  • marcioconsmarciocons

    @rostilav, if file size is a issue for you and you are not concerned with max quality, I think you should give Sanity 5.1 a try.

  • joboxjobox

    Moon T7, Old Nikon AI lenses 28mm & 50mm Mostly in green screen. Thanks Driftwood you´re the best!

  • rostislavrostislav

    @marciocons I've read that somewhere here (perhaps your post) that while DREWnet T9 will cause problems where Moon T7 works fine... my only issue with Moon T7 is the increased filesizes, i'm not sure if the extra quality is worth it especially once a clip would be uploaded to youtube

    Perhaps Nebula would be a good compromise?

  • marcioconsmarciocons

    @rostilav, currently I also own a Sandisk 16 45mb/s and I dnt know why, but sometimes it was freezing the camera and playback at the camera LCD was not possible, when I was running Drewnet T9. Using the same card with Moon T7, it is working fine, without freezing and playback is normal.

  • electonicelectonic

    I'm not sure if it's gonna help you, but I have two 64 GB Transcends 1. 64 GB Transcend "600x" speed 2. 64 GB Transcend "300x" speed

    They both work with Moon T7 without a problem. Haven't tried the DREWnet hack. Sorry! Hope it helps a bit.

  • rostislavrostislav

    I'm on 'DREWnet' T9 and having problems with Sandisk Extreme 45mb/s and willing to buy a new card, my options are:

    1.Transcend 64 UHS-3 http://tinyurl.com/q2t79o9 2.Sandisk Extreme 95mb/s card

    Does anyone know if the Transcend is going to be reliable enough?

    According to Crystaldiskmark: Sequential writing speed: Transcend is: 63mb/s Sandisk is: 67mb/s

    But the 512k, 4k are mixed results: Transcend is: 23 and 0.6 mb/s Sandisk is: 7 and 2 mb/s

    As you can see the Seq writing speed is the same, while 512 is faster on transcend and 4k much faster on sandisk, I believe that only the Seq parameter is the most important, can anyone enlighten me on this issue?

    So far the Transcend looks to be a good option and a bargain for 50$, but would it blend? Any insight would be appreciated! thanks!

    Sources: http://suggestionofmotion.com/blog/panasonic-gh4-memory-card-testing/ http://www.tekcore.co.uk/2013/08/17/sandisk-extreme-pro-32gb-sdhc-uhs-1-review/

  • marcioconsmarciocons

    Thanks @powderbanks, my idea is to shoot at max ISO 3200. I have not tested the camera in this particular ISO, under low light conditions, but as I told, I thought Canis Majoris had better ISO performance. There are so many patches and each one of these especially designed for different purposes, so I really got confused with them.

  • powderbankspowderbanks

    @mariocons There was a Canis Majoris 'Night' patch that was tuned for low-light, IIRC. It was good from what I remember, but I think Moon Trial 7 would be just as good. If you're shooting anything over ISO 6400, seriously consider putting the camera into black & white mode. Yes, it's baked in, but the grain all the way up to 12800 is actually very nice. Depending on the black & white profile you choose and the scene, you can pull more out from the shadows.

  • marcioconsmarciocons

    @Driftwood I have been very happy with the results given by Moon T7, but I have a question. In my research, for high ISO performance, I found an old patch named CANIS MAJORIS. How does it compare to Moon T7 in this aspect? Congrats for the great work!

  • rsquiresrsquires

    @donniewagner It came out better than OK. Looks fantastic. Neat Video is a bloody life saver that's for sure. Best plugin ever

  • donniewagnerdonniewagner

    @matt_gh2 Thanks, appreciate it

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