@igorek7 no prob :)

@igorek7 again? nice one-shot test and conclusions but not the ten commandments....

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@luxis Noise reduction dialed down, too, but contrast and saturation at 0 - maybe stupid that I didn't dial it down for this shoot (didn't think about it). I normally leave them at 0 because I grade with Filmconvert, and Filmconvert's GH2 Smooth profile is calibrated on those two color settings.

@cantsin thanks for the the two screengrabs. In this case, the pocket is way better in DR then the cooked, over-sharpened image of our otherwise beloved camera. But is this a surprise;) Just out of curiosity though, "Smooth with sharpening dialed down on the GH2" - so the other setting were all default( 0 value and not all of them at -2)? This usually does make a noticeable difference in the Gh2.

@rlima well speak of the devil, an example with the Panny Leica 25mm. Can't really tell from the video how must distortion there is because it's a decently static shot, but it's an example none the less.

@Cid, In those productions they use all kinds of cameras including stock footage from online sources. Good point though. Orbs have been there, we were not looking for them.

Okay, here's a fast grade of the BMPCC, mostly bringing up the shadows, to show what's there, with a fair amount of sharpening.

Is it less sharp or is the sharpening any more objectionable than that of the GH2 tif? Is it plausible to argue, based on this comparison, that the GH2 resolves more detail than the BMPCC?

Just asking.

@rsquires Check out the reviews and test measurements of MFT lenses on photozone.de . They meticulously document the native barrel distortion of each lens.

@cantsin What's wrong with barrel distortion? I think it's partly the lack if it in modern lenses that makes stuff look rather anodyne and what makes stuff shot with older/manual lenses look way better. Also since the sensor really only sees the middle of the lens I am imagining it won't be as bad as the edge in terms of CA. But that's merely conjecture. Do you have examples of stuff shot with Panny lenses that show the quality drop. I'd be interested to see since I own quite a few Panny lenses and have a Pocket on order

@jrd here are TIFF screengrabs from the gh2 and the pocket test footage, both created with ffmpeg directly from the camera source files. gh2.tif has 8 bit color depth, pocket.tif 16 bit (logically):

gh2, 5.8 MB

pocket, 9.6 MB

@BurnetRhoades

Based on experiments with J. Brawley's Prores footage, I'm persuaded I can make anything shot with the BMPCC look better than the equivalent on a GH2, including equal or greater sharpening, if that's the goal.

The only way to find out is to try -- maybe cantsin can provide a few of the original ProRes frames.

@jrd that's a set of charts and one example with conditions the settings of which haven't been confirmed, fully disclosed or recreated, that I'm aware. Observers also haven't taken into account the difference in performance between filtered and unfiltered imagery put through additional scaling and re-encoding. Even Nomad himself expressed doubts about the conclusion, what I read, and agreed that some of what was seen was false detail.

Results have to be reproduced and all of the factors leading to the conclusion explored before something is a fact. The only fact here is that known signal processing theory precludes the Pocket Camera from resolving more than the GH2 without some mitigating factor destroying the GH2's basic advantage of being supersampled. The rest is a lot of assumptions and desire for an easy one-line answer.

Then you have to account for processing that's going to be necessary on the PC to remove aliasing and moire, that won't have to be performed on GH2 footage and take that all the way to the end. Most of the time you won't need it though, I'm betting, at least not the antialiasing. For now the only conclusion I'm willing to accept is that the extra clean nature of the non-compressed footage carries a higher perceived level of sharpness in some instances while at the same time provoking comments like "soft" in numerous postings of footage since its release. Something that isn't common at all for the GH2, hacked or otherwise.

edit: and I'm not dogging the PC. I think it's very cool and will come through Blobgate okay. If my GH2 were to break or I'd otherwise need to replace it I would certainly do so with a PC versus a G6 or GH3 or any other DSLR, if I didn't just get a full-size BMCC as replacement.