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GH3 Best Video Settings
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  • @peternap It's a YouTube video link.

  • @maddog15 Are those photo's or frame grabs?

  • Here's a test pertaining to the earlier settings posts. -5 Contrast does really flatten out. As @yak described it... "chalky." At -5 contrast I'm able to recover contrast in the flesh tones but the color grade of the flesh can be a struggle. Both straight out of the camera with no color or tonal adjustment. Both were shot with the 24p 72Mb/s All Intra setting.

  • @maxr you're absolutely right... unfair with the GH3 indeed. Next time gonna use the same lens... :)

  • @rlima that oly 75 it's a razorblade, watch out don't cut anybody's throat :P

    Sometime ago a friend of mine and I did also some comparison tests (can't recall patch used) we agreed that GH2 overall IQ still tops GH3, (ungraded) DR was on pair and that GH2's multi-aspect sensor had quite bigger/wider (+useful) FOV... I'm gonna search for the footage

    About settings, I shot always C1 = Natural -5 -5 0 -5, reason: lazyness XD

  • one test brings another, curiously 72 all intra is a little bit noisier than 50 mbps, I expected the opposite :) both videos had exaclty same treatment

  • My settings were, iso 200, f/8.0, ss60, 25fps

  • I tried a quick contrast test but not for skin tone but for "dynamic range" I think its useful because there are a lot of times you shoot with extreme light contrast from sun to shadows, so as I expected when you shoot with contrast to 0 instead of -5 when you push the shadows you have more noise than pushing shadows in contrast -5. Here is my test, sorry I know highlights and shadows filter is digital and flattens everything but unfortunately we dont shoot with alexa :)

  • Hey guys! I was about to sell my GH2 to get another GH3 when I found this thread, and after reading some posts, specially maddog15 and driftwood's, I got very intrigued by Moon T5. I used to have self customized patches (42 and 88 mbps) on my GH2 and when the GH3 arrived something with the colors and the factory high bitrate made me use it more and more. I had the feeling that GH3 was a step ahead (IQ)…. but… well, decided to try out this driftwood's masterpiece… and my conclusion: it is IMPRESSIVE!! I had the chance to compare it to GH3 the other day in a real world situation and I was blown. And more, noise is beautiful, files play smooooooothly on camera…. not to tell I have a good viewfinder again… GH3's vf sucks!!! Definitely… I'm in love with my GH2 and it is my main camera again…. @Vitaliy_Kiselev and @driftwood and all the team… you're the men! It's a shame the GH2 ran out of production. This camera is a classic! I think I'll never sell mine. Check out the quick comparison with the GH2 w/ Moon T5 and Olympus 75/1.8 versus GH3 w/ Oly 45/1.8, both at around f/2. If the BMPC and the hacked GH3 can beat this, we all will be very pleased…..

  • @Yak Thanks for clearing that up! I guess I was hoping to see a comparison between Standard with Contrast at -5 vs Contrast at 0... There seem to be two camps: one that believes when shooting at -5 you can recover everything in post, the other that some details can never be recovered no matter what is done while editing.

  • @jonpais I shoot at 0 contrast because I found out it may be the only way to get good skin tone (hope I'm wrong). It's like the camera is processing the colors after the compression. It would'nt make much sense, but I always felt there's more loss data when everything is dialed down.

    With everything at 0, I've had success recovering shadows and highlights while keeping a nice looking skin tone.

  • Thanks Starios. Actually, that's kind of what I did on the weekend ... I used a 2 stop B&W Nd filter instead of the variable ND filter but even then it was still way too bright. I shot in Shutter priority instead of manual setting the speed at 1/100 and all worked out pretty well. At least the 2 stop ND filter takes a lot of the light out so the camera isn't choosing f/13 in S mode.

    This is such a great thread. Learning a lot from it.

  • @deang001 the variable nd filters unfortunately distroy photos and videos. You may notice the filter creates a star in the middle and I think all variable nd filters do that even if you pay a lot, its ok to use it for a quick shot but for something "professional" I suggest buying something like 3 stop nd in combination with 2 stop so you are gonna have 2-3 and 5 stops with clear image. I need nd filters also and that's what I am going to do. @maddog15 I am also between saturation to be at -2 or -3 but always in weddings I shoot in -2 trying not to loose color, maybe in my first movie I'll shoot in -4 and will not saturate it in post to look like pro cameras :P, I really dont know for sure about saturation, but I feel that contrast is something you can do whatever you want in post and even that I see more noise in low light with contrast in -5 because probably midtones come up, I prefer it, I find it more natural and editable. I am still waiting for my adapter from china for c-mount tokina 12,5-75 f/1.2, I will upload as soon as possible with this tiny manual baby and we'll all probably cry with the half black video cause of vignetting :P, I hope for the best :)

  • @RatLabProductions I guess you've got good problems to have being that busy! I'll get off my butt and post the test shots I've already tried. Did some yesterday with Contrast at 0.

  • @maddog15 Would love to see your results. I'm not sold on shooting really flat with an 8bit codec. I'm so swamped with post work this month I won't get to play with picture tests till mid Sept.

  • @RatLabProductions Yeah, great test. I saw this and can't believe it's Vivid Dialed down. Regardless I'm finding myself going against the golden rule of dialing Contrast, Sat and Sharpness all the way down on the GH3. As apposed to everything at -5 I'm doing tests now with -2 contrast, -3 saturation, -3 Sharpness. I'll post a vid when I get time.

  • I saw this video

    in the 12-35mm 2.8 lens thread and really liked the look. On the vimeo page he says he was using Vivid dialed down. I have never tried that because it seems like ending up at neutral anyway but I think now I might run a test when I get some time and see what it does.

  • @yak I've been using Standard with Sharpness turned down at tad as well... Just wondering whether you did any similar tests to see how the image looks with Standard profile, Contrast dialed down to -4 or -5... What were your reasons for leaving contrast set at 0? I've been going back and forth myself, guess I should do some similar tests...

  • Is there any real info about the hack ?

  • @yak Thanks. My own experience confirmed this as well, I'll stick with the Standard setting, too.

  • @yak Dead on with this. thanks for sharing.

  • I really hope a hack gives us room too color correct too. For now i'm sticking with standard 0 contrast.

  • @yak Nice comparison. I fight that battle with skin tones too. Flat and chalky. Good description. To date the best remedy I've found isn't the camera but how well or dynamic my subject is lit. I have my fingers crossed VK and the crew will get a GH3 hack in progress with a higher bit rate than 72Mb/s. (My GH2 with Moon T5 at 153Mb/s added so much more information and wiggle room to play with in post) Sorry...kina got off topic for second.

  • Natural -5 contrast gives the most DR.

    The problem I have with this setting is that I feel it flattens way too much the mid tones. Because of that I can't seem to recover good skin tones in post, they always look kinda chalky.

    I prefer shooting in standard with 0 contrast and lift the shadows as the information seems to be well encoded.

    Small skin tone test here : Standard (I like to shoot) vs Natural -5

  • @deang001 That's a good question and difficult to answer as different lenses have different finicky personalities regarding diffraction. "By the book" the sweet spot is supposed to be f4 and up. (I think.) But my personal experience has taught me that because every lens has its own personality/quirks - I test each lens as soon as I buy it. I have an old but nice manual focus 50mm f2 Pentax prime lens. At f16 it out performs the Pany 14-142mm as far as full frame clarity and sharpness at the same f-stop. It's not supposed to (as the Pany lens is new, made for the m4/3 camera etc etc...) But the prime 50mm Pentax does. Go figure! Still learning a lot myself.

    That's my two cents. Perhaps others will post a more educated opinion on the subject. I'd like to know more myself.