3M fires 2,900 people

The COVID-19 pandemic has advanced the pace of change and disrupted end markets around the world, increasing the need for companies to adapt faster," Chief Executive Officer Mike Roman said.

3M said the restructuring actions would allow it to take advantage of global market trends in e-commerce, health care, automotive electrification and home improvement.

The company had 96,163 employees as of Dec. 31, 2019.

The company said it expects the restructuring to result in pre-tax savings of $200 million to $250 million this year and $75 million to $100 million in 2021.

Worst thing is that 3M supported famous theory of "no proper masks for people outside medicine". It is horrible crime that should be explored and all people related to it must be executed.

@tinbeo

But after getting temperature checked, I was asked to take my mask off, instead wearing hospital’s provided mask.

Lot of people become corporate drones, they want to literally follow instructions provided by them.

This is also one of big reasons so many people die from COVID.

Just recently , cdc said because faulty of using mask, Mask wearing Is not protect you better than not wearing it -;).and now after Trump was defeated by all you can named it, vaccine is replace mask news now. Wtf?

Vaccine won't replace masks, do not worry :-)

Related to last post, can check comments to video from many people who use N95 and better masks.

@Meierhans....well last week I had to go on a 2 hour bus trip. One way I used a 3m 9010, which is a light weight valveless...and the other way I used a 3m 8511, which has a valve. The valve mask was only slightly more tolerable. Not noticing it....I doubt it. A valve mask still requires work inhaling and is nearly as hot. So if you have to be on public transport, it might be a better personal choice, esp for a long trip. However, if you got on a plane or bus, and everyone had a mask with a valve, you can assume you're unprotected from everyone else, except for your mask. And regardless which mask I'm using in whatever circumstance, I want to get the fuxer off as soon as possible, and I never use one if I'm in open, free air...unless being ordered by the authorities, which has happened. And they aren't smart enough to listen to the debate, so I put on a surgeons mask and remove when I'm out of sight, cause they're too stupid to know the difference. But if I had to take an intercontinental 10 hour flight, I might....maybe, would be persuaded by V's argument to use a respirator.... and goggles, and gloves, and prayer.

@kurth

A face mask with an exhalation valve doesn’t help protect others. The valve makes it easier for you to exhale, but it also lets your germs out into the air. When it comes to protecting others, a mask with an exhalation valve is like not wearing one at all.

Main spread happen during cough, cheap respirator with valve will hold around 80-95% of wet particles. During cough around 70-80% of air even goes via filter, not valve. Valve in them is small and limit the exhale volume per second.

With good half and full face masks, valve has completely different construction and air goes down, not before you.

Most people wear surgical mask such a way that leakage is comparable to N95 valve, btw :-)

You don’t need an N95 mask. Studies have shown that a mask made of at least two layers of cloth will be effective as long as it is snug with no large gaps around the top or sides. The best material is a tightly woven cotton, which can include a bandanna.

It is also not true, as not only filter material differs, but also sealing is much better.

“The purpose of masks is to keep respiratory droplets from reaching others,” the health agency said. The CDC recommends cloth face coverings as the best line of defense against spreading the novel coronavirus.

CDC is like band of idiots. If you implement total masks mode as they want, it is mask sealing and efficiency that matters. You must be able to check it yourself.

It is simple math. Lets propose (for the sake of it, despite wrong) that valve allow 90% of droplets out. Let's get use surgical mask efficiency at 80% (it is new and not wet) on another person. So, if you be right besides this person inhaling almost everything you can inhale up to 18% of droplets (today it had been apocalypse if this had been the case). In real life it is around 2-4% on the small distance. For total best case with another mask without valve it will be 1-2% (as here it will be small droplets that went through leaks and filters).

Now lets assume we all use proper sealed and valved half masks. No more than 40% of droplets are out due to large valve and downward guide. Efficiency is 99,97%. If you be right besides this person inhaling almost everything you can inhale up to 0,012% of droplets. In real life it is around <0,001% on the small distance.

Maybe it didn't reach Siberia yet.

May be it is time to work for you in Siberia, will be nice weather soon.

@kurth

As I told, you just always comment your own ideas. Not something posted. Hence why I am worried about you.

@kurth

You lost ability to read quite long time ago, and it seems like you are loosing brain neurons at staggering pace also. Please, be safe, try to keep remaining in working state. We here like you, but some last posts make us worried.

@kurth

...actually if the mask has a valve, it does nothing to protect other people if the mask wearer is sick, which is half the reason for wearing it.

First, it is not true. Good mask valve guide air down and you can't cough on someone else.

Second, idea to "protect other people" sounds quite nice, but in reality it does not work as it sounds. As most people who are getting sick now are not wearing masks. It works partly if you have very high discipline and total mask mode.

Third, people who due to lack of valve have extra wet and not working mask that they also avoid to wear are much worse.

P100 style respirators - nobody wears them except for areas that require it N95 masks - ditto blue medical masks - maybe 50% including myself wear them.

What exactly is "P100 style respirators" here? As only sealed (and where you can check sealing!) half and full face masks exist with such rating.

Whole idea with real life P3/P100 half mask usage is to get QL version and not having it on absolutely full time. But few hours even in hot temperature is not so bad after training and if you are not smoker or such :-)

Also it is hard to get that N95 mask is. As it is ton of them, and wearing one without proper good valve is not good idea.

Mordor updates

The maximum production capacity for medical masks is almost 20 million pieces per day. At the beginning of March it was 600 thousand pieces in total.

This is little lie as even in February they talked about 1.5 millions, all else they imported from China.

Real requirement is around 200-290 millions masks per day. For real total mask mode.

For other types of PPE, production capabilities have reached - respirators, 530 thousand units per day, 200 thousand protective suits, 114 thousand pairs of gloves.

Around 80-90% of them are cheap respirators and fully unbreathable protective suits (so medics literally suffer in them).

But...

Enterprises are not working to the fullest, they are focusing on market demand, some of them use their capacities at 50%, some at 80%. But even this is enough to close the domestic market with a margin and, among other things, to carry out export supplies.

This is at the time average person uses one time use surgical mask for 8-10 days.

Eight people in Indonesia were forced to dig the graves of coronavirus victims as penance for not wearing their masks when leaving their homes.

Superb idea.

I propose to make them dig their own grave and pay for 3 months reservation of it.

LG PuriCare Wearable - interesting, but little strange thing

• Small 820mAh battery
• Two fans
• HEPA filters
• Ultraviolet disinfection case (stupid as they have closed filters)

Looks like LG made something using their designers of vacuum cleaners. As idea of using such fans is smart only if accompanies by super smart sensors, as they will prevent both inhaling (such small fans must be really super fast and loud to supply proper amount of air) and exhaling (as here they need so fully stop at once). Holes of in plastic filter covers are tiny and will prevent even unassisted breathing. LG also do not get why 3M construction is such as it is - monolithic approach allows to prevent accidental leaks that will be plague of such complex design as LG made.