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What do we know about the novel coronavirus?
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  • Very fit quite:

    People always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind all moral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises.

    Lenin

  • @kurth

    China now is more or less normal country compared to completely nuts proponents of democracy.
    I talked to lot of Chinese as well as checked Russian bloggers - all is ok.

  • India

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    Average time given to stock food for 21 day - 2 hours.

    Number of dead people in India who had coronavirus (not who died from it!) was 10 at this time. Same amount of people die from traumas per hour in large India agglomerations.

    If you are poor you can get 16 dollars (for all 21 days) after making necessary papers. If you are not so poor - you need to survive on yourself.

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  • @Vitaliy...well we see the flaws more easily because there's some modicum of freepress. China is closed and we only hear what the junta wants us to hear.

  • @kurth

    Just put masks on fresh air under direct sun. It must be also not wet. Works 100%.

    All you need is to make it totally dry, as virus dies as soon as his small droplets they are in vaporize.

  • @jleo....out of your options, the only one most people are going to have access to is heat. I'd recommend the los alamos method as being far less detrimental to the material than heat. One, a kitchen oven is very difficult to accurately maintain at low temperatures, and it will degrade the material worse than washing in a diluted clorox solution and allow to room dry, as I believe was los alamos's method. But my thoughts after seeing that video was that a mask, not being used in a hospital situation, could be sprayed with a diluted clorox solution on the exterior and would dry in sunlight in less than half an hour. That's what I'll do when my masks turn is up. My 2 cents

  • @kurth

    could very well be true china is covering up their cases.

    Well, it seems rather strange that someone "covering their cases" is feeling much better than "fighters for democracy", sorry, now it is fighters for martial law.

    How you can cover medicine offered by ruling class that kills 10x more people than original decease?

  • To much blame on China.

    There will be deep economic crisis there will be famine and there will be war...

  • @Vitaliy....could very well be true china is covering up their cases. There's already countries hoarding food supplies. Field hospitals have been used for 300 years during times of war. People do what they can. It's too easy just to blame everything on the 'elites'. This is too chaotic to be planned. Maybe rogue elements within China, the USa , or Israel started it, or it was an accident, or cia screwed up , or mossad, or mi6, or mss, or nato, or some other intel agency ...but to think there's some elite group sitting around some big round table above all this making their plans ...is absurd. This is pure chaos theory happening on a scale never before seen, in our lifetimes, or any others.

  • Old UNESCO plans

    It's terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. This is so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn't even say it. But the general situation in which we are involved is lamentable.

    http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0009/000902/090256eo.pdf

  • Scientific advisors to the British government have reportedly told the Prime Minister Boris Johnson that China is covering up the full extent of the coronavirus pandemic, and that things could be 40 times worse there than the communist state admits.

    I think it is amazing humor. Virus is so horrible so no one notices it. And may be it is truth, may be we just saw China leaving the fake game and this is Huawei will be without any chips soon.

    China is seeking to build its economic power during the pandemic with predatory offers of help to countries around the world.

    Predatory offers of help. Yes. Someone needs to see doctor.

  • Why so many hospitals?

    • Well, ruling class is destroying the economy
    • Situation with servicing usual medical cases is horrible already
    • As soon as we'll have issue with food - we can have severe consequences
    • This is that all this hospitals are for mainly, they are not high tech, just places where you will die
  • Emergency Hospital is being constructed at Central Park, New York City. Three months to prepare and the best we can do are tents?

    There is an operation underway to build an emergency hospital inside Central Park. Sunday morning, trucks filled with equipment and supplies parked along 5th Avenue, and workers with the North Carolina based Christian organization Samaritan’s Purse began constructing a 68-bed emergency field hospital across from Mount Sinai Hospital.

    Dr. Elliott Tenpenny, the team leader of this field operation, tells NY1 state officials approved the plan after Mount Sinai Hospital reached out for assistance. The field hospital will be composed of a respiratory care unit with ICU capability. Dr. Tenpenny said highly trained doctors and nurses with experience in infectious diseases will be deployed on a rotating basis

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  • Hungary

    New bill will also introduce jail terms of up to five years for intentionally spreading misinformation that hinders the government response to the pandemic, leading to fears that it could be used to censor or self-censor criticism of the government response.

    Expect same bills in all countries within 2 weeks time.

  • Sanitizing N95 masks

    1. Heat.

    A temperature of 133 degrees F for 15 min inactivates the SARS corona virus according to the WHO. This would most likely also apply to the Covid-19 virus. Viruses certainly die at temperatures of 160-170 degrees F. A used mask can be treated safely at these temperatures in an oven. I'd think 160 degrees for 1/2 hour would be more than adequate. Consider rotating mask used with heat treatment of the used mask.

    Heat the mask in dry heat to 60C (140F) for 30 minutes. Use a calibrated thermometer. Place your old masks in bags (paper preferably) , put the bags in the oven open. You want to put the bags in paper to reduce cross contamination between the people touching the mask and people touching the oven. You can also write names on the paper bags and when it went into the oven. Obviously if the mask encounters a fluid like blood it should be thrown out. This does not degrade the mask over 20 cycles.You can err on the side of being a little too warm, the straps will suffer damage before the mask itself will. ( you can remove the straps before heat treatment )

    Ovens will also work for most other types of PPE. As 60C is cooler than the temperature in your car on a hot summer day usually.

    2. Microwave Steam method:

    Evaluation of Microwave Steam Bags for the Decontamination of Filtering Facepiece Respirators

    https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/hcwcontrols/recommendedguidanceextuse.html

    3. Ultraviolet Light.

    Ensure all sides of the mask are exposed to the radiation.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/

    buy a UV-C bulb like one at the link below. Put the mask in an enclosed box with the bulb and let the bulb disenfect it for 10-15min.

    BOAITE UV Germicidal Lamp UVC with Ozone Light Bulb E26 25w 110v Cleans Air 

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R6QFNDN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Qn5rEbS95163T

    Warning: the bulb in the link creates OZONE, this is a gas and isn't something you want to breathe, it is bad for your lungs, so use the bulb in a enclosed space to disinfect the mask... then air it out after (making sure not to breath the ozone air). Its not "toxic" but it's not good to be breathing in concentrated quantities.

    UV germicidal lights on eBay

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR4.TRC2.A0.H0.XUV+Germicidal+Lamp.TRS0&_nkw=UV+Germicidal+Lamp&_sacat=0

    3. Ozone.

    Put your clothes and masks in a small room or box. Turn on a Ozone generator and expose items for a couple hours or longer.

    a mini ozone generator with single mask

    http://cstt-hk.com/product_details/58.html

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32910161723.html

    https://oregonregenerativemedicine.com/another-solution-to-the-mask-shortage-orm-using-ozone-to-disinfect-our-masks/

    4. Vaporized Hydrogen Peroxide.

    The process uses specialized equipment to vaporize hydrogen peroxide, which can then infuse all the layers of the mask to kill germs (including viruses) without degrading mask material. “This is a decontamination technology and method we’ve used for years in our biocontainment laboratory,” said Scott Alderman, associate director of the Duke Regional Biocontainment Laboratory

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/duke-university-uses-vaporized-hydrogen-213138894.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/respirators-strategy/crisis-alternate-strategies.html

  • Mordor news

    Public medicine officially stopped serving everyone except coronavirus in most big cities (till April 30 for now, but can be prolonged). Around 90% of this cities have 4-80 lightly ill coronavirus patients. Deaths from lack of medical assistance will be 10-200x larger compared to any coronavirus nightmares.

    This include cancer, lung deceases and so on.

    Private medicine works fully and is not affected by this but is being used only by rich 3-10%.

  • Mordor news

    Our liberal economist predictions on situation we will see in 1-2 months time.

    We must expect full destruction of workers rights and work laws.

    It won't be 8/40 work week numbers, as well as any support for workers (paid leave and so on).

    Workers will be paid by hour, and will be working similar to taxy drivers (Google and few other firms are preparing to launch such work aggregators).
    If they are not required right now they won't be getting anything.
    This will also be same for high qualified workers.
    It will be new norm to work 10-14 hours a day without weekends.
    1-2 pause days will be possible during one month.

    Firms will be freed from most work protection measures and obligations.

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  • US, actually coronavirus is biggest life saver in US history

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    This is that happens is you lockdown younger guys and already have safe electrical sockets.

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  • President Trump extended the virus guidelines (lockdown) until April 30th

  • Bill Gates Urges 10-Week Nationwide Lockdown.

    Mordor. Soon we can see road blocks around most big cities as well as martial law. Lot of this cities have 3-10 sick (total) still. Hence despite original plan only Moscow have it for now, mass media got more time to push hysteria as it is not enough.

  • @robertGL...I posted a video earlier

  • ANy ideas about how to clean N95 masks? I'm thinking of sponging them with peroxide and laying them on a hot surface to dry out and kill bacteria. Washing them in laundry doesn't seem prudent.

  • Canada:

    B.C. experimenting with malaria and Ebola medications to treat COVID-19 patients

    According to provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry, anti-malaria medication hydroxychloroquine, and the antiviral Remdesivir — at one point used to to treat Ebola — are currently being tested on patients inside at least one facility in B.C. Outbreaks have occurred inside 12 long-term care homes in the province.

    Hydroxychloroquine is also being tested on COVID-19 patients by researchers at the University of Manitoba — a joint trial in conjunction with researchers in Alberta and Minnesota.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/malariaa-medication-covid-1.5513899

    China:

    "Chloroquine has good antiviral capabilities against the novel coronavirus as evaluated in vitro. It has been approved for clinical trial by the Ministry of Science and Technology and National Health Commission," said Chen at the daily press conference. "The Shanghai Institute of Materia Medica and Shanghai Pharmaceuticals Holding Co have recently launched a joint clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine in Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center."

    https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202002/13/WS5e45222ca310128217277606.html

  • Trump is clearly pushing Hydroxychloroquine