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GX1: Official topic
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  • amateuramateur
    Ultra high speed AF:

  • ShaveblogShaveblog
    As a happy GF1 owner, I'm heartened at least to see Panasonic learn from its mistakes with the cutesy GF2/3 and return to the GF1 aesthetic with the new GX1. But as someone who also owns a GH2, I was only planning to buy a GX1 body if it could do 24p and serve as a B-cam (or, if it somehow beat the GH2's video performance, it would become my new A-cam). With no 24p, the GX1 is strictly a stills shooter cam with the added bonus of excellent 30p video for family and other casual videos.

    That said, if I was in the market for a small rangefindery mirrorless right now, I'd have a tough time buying the GX1 over an NEX-5N, clicking and all. I'm no Sony fan but if I could overcome my preconceived notions and switch from Canon to Panasonic, I'm sure I could do the same for...involuntary shudder...Sony.

    Okay no I couldn't.
  • tttuliotttulio
    People asking for built-in camera ND filters, forget it. It won't happen on a M43 / NEX system.
    If we could get low ISO 5/10, I would be happy enough.
  • stoneystoney
    No 24p. Yes 25p. Wow Panasonic is good at torturing!!!

    No native 60p sensor output.
  • alcomposeralcomposer
    Continuous Recordable Time (Motion Image)*
    AVCHD with picture quality set to [FSH]:

    Approx. 130 min with H-FS014042
    Approx. 140 min with H-PS14042
    Approx. 150 min with H-H014

    (No mention of MP4 recording time? exFAT anyone?)
  • LongJohnSilverLongJohnSilver
    I did not find an explicit mention on video manual controls...
    From full specs table:

    http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gx1/specifications.html

    Exposure Mode: Program AE / Aperture Priority AE / Shutter Priority AE / Manual / Auto

    MP4

    NTSC
    [Full HD] 1,920 x 1,080, 30fps (sensor output is 30p) (Approx. 20Mbps)
    [HD] 1,280 x 720, 30fps (sensor output is 30p) (Approx. 10Mbps)
    [VGA] 640 x 480, 30fps (sensor output is 30p) (Approx. 4Mbps)

    PAL
    [Full HD] 1,920 x 1,080, 25fps (sensor output is 25p) (Approx. 20Mbps)
    [HD] 1,280 x 720, 25fps (sensor output is 25p) (Approx. 10Mbps)
    [VGA] 640 x 480, 25fps (sensor output is 25p) (Approx. 4Mbps)


    AVCHD

    NTSC
    [Full HD] 1,920 x 1,080, 60i (sensor output is 30p) (FSH: 17 Mbps, FH: 13Mbps)
    [HD] 1,280 x 720, 60p (sensor output is 30p) (SH: 17 Mbps, H: 13Mbps)

    PAL
    [Full HD] 1,920 x 1,080, 50i (sensor output is 25p) (FSH: 17 Mbps, FH: 13Mbps)
    [HD] 1,280 x 720, 50p (sensor output is 25p) (SH: 17 Mbps, H: 13Mbps)
  • MimirsanMimirsan
    haha ;-)
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    If we carefully look at GF2, GF3, G3 and now GX1 and notice what Panasonic has most advanced internal architecture, I can make simple conclusion - it must be some mole working inside :-)
    We already saw one in Olympus, made it up to the top :-)
  • MimirsanMimirsan
    Not too hot above iso 800...interlaced video format...no manual controls in video?

    Why Panny..just why? Take a damn step out of the door and actually LOOK at your competition!
    Indeed another wasted opportunity....I was still hoping!

    And no offense to all but we cant rely on a hack to make a camera better all the time...it should be a killer product to begin with.

    That Dpreview video was funny...haha..."Those who love the GF1 are going to be VERY excited"...they perhaps should look on 43 rumours and other m43 sites...not a great deal of excitement going on.
    Also "people complained they wanted dials...so we gave them one! tee hee" Brilliant stuff.

    I look at this and it seems that they really want to/need to shift the 14-42x lens.
  • RRRRRRRR
    The camera looks very similar to my old LX3...
  • amateuramateur
    @thecrane

    Thanks for sharing i don't know if they did test with Gh2 have to compare it RAW by RAW croped 100%
  • amateuramateur
    @thecrane

    Let's hope it makes resonables video then let's see if vitaliy judge it hackable .. but is to soon for talk about it :D
  • raoulraoul
    Images and video:
    http://www.ephotozine.com/article/panasonic-lumix-gx1-first-impressions-review-17770
  • amateuramateur
    to much little apperture on flowers but it seems iso 800 is acceptable i will not make more then that...

    hope videos will be avalaible tomorrow or soon for see how that machine works...
  • raoulraoul
    Sample images at various iso:

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-lumix-gx1-hands-on_Digital-Camera_review_sample-images-iso-performance_Page-5

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-lumix-gx1-hands-on_Digital-Camera_review_sample-images-general-images_Page-6
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    @thecrane

    MP4 is not a codec, it is container. ALl compression is absolutely the same.
  • amateuramateur
    Sample image from official site in iso 400:
    http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gallery/img/sample/gx1/P1000830.JPG

    Let's wait to see how iso 1200 is ...
  • thecranethecrane
    25p Full HD, but inferior codec (edit -standard h264 in mpeg-4 container ??), not a waste of time if hacked and bitrate increased
  • raoulraoul
    Looking at the specs at http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonicdmcgx1/page2.asp there seems to be nothing exciting in the video features. Same old 1080 50/60i from 25/30p sensor output at 17mbps for Pal/Ntsc regions.

    A small form factor take anywhere camera with 24p would be great but I think for video this camera is rather a waste. With prices dropping I'd rather get a second gh2.
  • amateuramateur
    official panasonic specifications.... :
    http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gx1/index.html
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    http://www.dpreview.com/news/1111/11110719gx1.asp
    http://www.dpreview.com/news/1111/11110721gx1preview.asp

  • CRFilmsCRFilms
    But does it have 24p? I've read a lot of posts(but not all so maybe I missed it), and none of them say 24p. Any marketing department or reviewer worth their salt would have said by now if it had 24p. So...that leads me to believe there is no 24p or they would have said so by now. I probably wouldn't buy it anyway over a hacked GH2, but no 24p definitely means no buy.
  • amateuramateur
    HOTT GX1 TEST FOOTAGE !!!:
    :D

    By VLC multimedia player is say 25fps
  • amateuramateur
    it look like 43rumors are not really sure if is g3 sensor and i constated that the sensor have more a purple color maybe a sign of new sensor ??? hope it beat af100 in low light :D
  • stoneystoney
    It's ok. At least Panasonic is making worthy lenses :)

    I'm getting 14-42 X in a few days. 14-45 going to ebay. The upgrade cost is less than $100, I hope. Gotta love Panasonic!!!
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