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  • Hi!

    I think GH camera it's a great camera with a very nice look but the rolling shutter is extreme. Without this problem could be really amazing camera. I also read on M43 the rumor of the global shutter but seems that's not real. I would much better dynamic range, and for that matter to dream a RAW video format or better video codec, but this would be so much! Of course, 1080 at 60p, better ISO... Like still camera needs to be very much faster.

    I love my GH13. I take this opportunity to thanks Vitality Kiselev for his work!!! Was very exciting to see the progress of your hack.

    Panasonic has done something great. I hope it stays that way.

    Looks like the Bolex D16 will be also a excellent camera.

    Regards,

  • Aside from what other people have asked for.

    I would absolutely love if the GH3 had a higher height multiaspect sensor, as tall as a APS-C sensor. This would allow 1:1 aspect ratio and full usage of the lens image circle in this aspect.

    Also new aspect crops such as 5:4, 2.39:1, 1.85:1 and one last one, the usage of the whole sensor, with no cropping what so ever, vignetting be damned

    Also allow multiaspect selection in video modes too.

    Ex Tele modes that were perfect crops for common lens ie 2/3rds

    This would turn the GH3 into a monster, heck if we could to the last 2 with the GH2 via firmware it would be monster

  • So, best still camera.

  • Panasonic, give me line-in and AGC bypass so that I can use external recorder to capture, level and monitor the sound without syncing in post. And I'll call it quits. You don't thread on your pro market niche with extra audio features on a prosumer camera. We get the ability to have decent sound via 3rd party solution. Everybody's happy.

  • i want some nice real gh3 gear-porn pictures to drewl upon

  • Well if one can choose freely an external monitor is better for getting the focus spot on. That is not always the case though, part of the benefit of a dslr is the light weight (possible to carry around anywhere) and there is really no reason not to have a very good LCD screen and a very good EVF on such a camera..

  • @svart I hear you. I agree: (almost) nothing beats a big, hi-res LCD monitor. But if I’m in a situation where I have to choose between the GH2’s LCD and EVF, I always opt for the latter.

  • @svart, I'm wondering if the problems you're having with the EVF is due to the technology Panasonic uses (which is similar to DLP) where the primary colors are flipped between rapidly, which can lead to color tearing. Some people notice it more than others, and if you're eyes are "active" you will see it more too.

    Hopefully panasonic uses a more standard OLED technology which offers a much more stable color image in the GH3.

    For me I'd hope for: less skew, clean HDMI that can be more easily recorded, headphone jack, accessory grip that has XLR inputs and external audio controls :) why not! peaking, custom curves

    oh ok fine, and cinemaDNG :)

  • I work fast and have twitchy eyes. I shot for years with SLRs using standard mirror VFs but this GH series EVF just isn't my thing I guess. I'd rather have a much larger LCD than any EVF at all, rather like the new BM camera. But that's just me. I do most of my GH vid stuff with external monitors anyway.

  • @svart Heh. Sorry, must have been too vague a reference.

    What I meant to say was it sort of took me a few moments to get used to the EVF, too. Once I’d gotten the hang of it, though, I virtually stopped using the LCD display. So, referring to your “all i see is blurred colors” comment, I’ll say maybe you haven’t quite figured out how to position your eye against it.

  • @Mr_Moore: Does my tripod hold it wrong too? :)

  • @klem007

    IF you look at Olympus curves it looks like it is mostly software difference with G3 and GX1.

  • gimme the dr of the olympus and i'm on board ! (:

    • 18 mp
    • 1080 60p or 50p
    • more focus points improvements
    • 4:2:2 color
    • hdmi out uncompressed 4:2:2
    • sensor improvement low noise levels in higher iso
    • auto focus improvement for video
  • I hope the improve S/N - 4:2:2 would be nice

  • If Panny could squeeze a couple more stops, offer us cine gamma knee control, improve S/N, and offer 4:2:2...

  • I actually think that a change of focus has already taken place. Just look at the Canon and Nikon DSLR lines. They are clearly aiming at the Video Photo Journalist market with the features they've added to their top of the line DSLR's. The only issue Panny has is that they don't have a Pro DSLR camera. They most certainly can make the GH3 their Pro cam and spec it out accordingly. It still won't be a proper Video camera and thus there's really no reason not to put a ton of features into it. Some guy that does College sports or other Proper Video camera jobs isn't going to be swayed by a GH3 just cuz Panny adds a Headphone out or improves the DR etc. So IMO there's no legit reason for Panny not to go for the gusto. Even the AF100 was a different tool than the GH2. They don't have to be considered competition for the same market. They need to go in a similar direction as Canon with their C series DSLR's, but only much cheaper and they'll do great in the Mkt place.

  • It's almost impossible to achieve critical focus on GH2 using EVF or LCD. Moire-like false color effects of the areas in focus help a bit.

    Focus assist is a must for the next model.

  • @svart

    The EVF is useless for me (all i see is blurred colors while trying to use it)

    “You’re holding it wrong.”

  • I'm not sure why folks keep asking for a higher res LCD/EVF.. The EVF is useless for me (all i see is blurred colors while trying to use it) and the LCD works fine for framing. You can't possibly focus with that little screen, even if it was super-duper high resolution. My vote is for zoomed focus assist on an external HDMI monitor, while the LCD shows the normal picture, all while recording. That would have come in handy many times for me. The operator can use the LCD for framing and the focus puller can use an external monitor with the focus assist feature.

    That and get rid of the pulsing blue/red noise at high ISO.

  • Well Canon, Nikon, Panasonicand few others are all holding hands behind closed doors ,while down in the foyer their respective underlings are brawling over market segment / share. I have Gh2 an amazed at what I am learning with it,(bloody novice that I am). Micro 4/3 stuff is very innovative , I think thats where Panasonic is coming from ...develop their own market with a new idea. I don't see them trying to topple the Canon Nikon dominance of DSLrs. I gained a great insight into the market cartels ex Japan in the 80's with respects to photocopy industry.

  • The gh13 was good before the gh2 came. Unless panny decides they need to rework their entire firmware it won't be long before gh2 users will get their gh3's and so forth... It would take a miracle for it to not sell, just like it would take a miracle for it to get the whole chunk of video dslr market.

    The sole reason why panasonic cannot compete with Canikon dslr offers is due to still photography. Those who primarily come from the world of stills photography (to shoot a little video) will more often than not prefer to have a great stills camera and live with reasonable video quality than the other way around.

    Another issue is poor compatibility between EF and m43 mounts / contacts.

  • No one need to "revolutionize" the market.
    It is consumer camera aimed at specific segment.
    I am sure that we'll see very good incremental improvements (screen, EVF, sensor, video formats, etc).

    We has many similar words said before GH2 release, and most of them are pointless.

  • true, but unless the GH3 can compete with MKIII and also D800, I can't see them selling any because the GH2 already rocks!

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