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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

  • yoclayyoclay

    Bummer about the lack of clean HDMI though.

  • yoclayyoclay

    91 Mbps for 1080 using ALL-I is good. What this mean is that if there is a ML hack (or someone else, if you know what I mean :-) eventually, the codec would allow GH2 style tweaking.

  • OedipaxOedipax

    Lame, Canon. I mean, we have to wait for competent shooters to test it and see how it stacks up, but right now from where I'm sitting I'm happy to keep my 5DmkII and GH2.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @itimjim

    It is very risky period.
    Canon is doing only thing they could. They must not show crowd that days of DSLRs are counted.
    And worse, they must not show simple fact that all lines of lenses will require total change.

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    Canon really wants people to buy the sony FS-1000 don't they...

  • itimjimitimjim

    So, Intra for £3k...at first glance, underwhelming.

    If they've fixed the down sampling then it starts to look a little better. I would have expected more at this price point, plus how long folk have been anticipating it, and remaining one step ahead of Nikon.

    I'll be very interested to see what Sony come up with next, as they've been holding their cards tight to their chest.

  • TommyboyTommyboy

    ...not really that excited about it.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    I recalculated all bitrates, as marketers again worked to make them look better :-)

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Main video specs

    • [1920 x 1080]: 30 fps / 25 fps / 24 fps; ALL-I - 685 MB/min (91Mbit/s), IPB 235MB /min (32Mbit/s)
    • [1280 x 720]: 60 fps / 50 fps; ALL-I - 610 MB/min (81Mbit/s), IPB 205MB /min (27Mbit/s)
    • [640 x 480]: 30 fps / 25 fps; IPB - 78MB/min (10Mbit/s)

    If the recording time reaches 29 min. 59 sec., the movie shooting stops automatically.
    Movie shooting does not stop when the file size reaches 4GB.
    Clear and uncompressed HDMI output is absent

  • alcomposeralcomposer

    @VK Is it possible to make full RAW video storage in small cameras, like GF3? ...it is not more complex, it is, in fact, much simpler.

    If I were RED I would be very worried about Panasonic - Canon etc... But then again, 5DmkIII - yet another 'lets not listen to pro-sumer' problem... :-(

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Official specs:

    http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/digital_slr_cameras/eos_5d_mark_iii#Specifications

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @plasmasmp

    First, it is absolutely wrong view. Problem with Red is that it is far behind leading companies in chips and electronic design.
    Is it possible to make full RAW video storage in small cameras, like GF3?
    No problems, main thing that must be improved is called SD card controller. Plus, may be, some RAM added.
    Otherwise it is not more complex, it is, in fact, much simpler.

  • plasmasmpplasmasmp

    @kholi - I'll chew my shoe too. Red takes 55w to run raw with scarlet. No way Canon got that down to some tiny number to run on those batteries. Not going to have the "RAW" horsepower to do that with small batteries/and or heat for another couple of die shrinks.

  • NickBenNickBen

    Canon announces New Black and White Silent Movie Camera! 5D Mark III "BS" ... Talent not included!

    Enjoy the announcement!

    ;-D

  • AthirilAthiril

    @Vitaly_Kiselev: That's fine because the subject of my post is not about the GH2.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @Athiril

    This is not topic about GH2. Let's keep it about Mark III only.

  • AthirilAthiril

    There are things that disappoint me with the GH2, but overall am very happy to have and use it, looking forward to what the next generation from Panasonic and Canon brings to the table, as all this stuff starts becoming "must keep up with the jones'" standard features from competitors, which will create the drive to push the envelope further.

    Different containers doesn't necessarily mean different codecs. I do like the option of different container formats though.

    I think any large sensor camera in this small package/form size bringing proper 4:2:2 or even 4:4:4 1080p over HDMI (inexpensive 4:4:4 HDMI recorders from cinemartin etc) with full proper downscaling filter, in a global shutter is going to do it for me. Maybe the generation after the upcoming one.

  • kholikholi

    If it's raw I'll chew my shoe. I don't see that happening in my future

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    @simple

    Yea, I guess. But anything that takes video is... by the nature of things... a video camera. Or I guess, you could call them "motion cameras". Since "video camera" seems to imply more of "live video"... as in broadcast and sports.

  • simplesimple

    @Clermond yea all eyes on Canon now, even big film makers, if they dont knock it out the park, im afraid D range are just , pfh the Apple of the camera world, where you pay 10x for build quality/design, menus insted of real performance.

    And the rich will still hype canon , like most ppl do apple,

  • simplesimple

    bwhitz, aren't they hybrids :) not video cameras right, but dlsr hybrids "stills / video" ^^

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    @vegandelight "Sorry to poop on your hate parade here but the 5D Mark III is still a dslr and not a video camera like the C300."

    Wrong. The 5DIII is a video camera... because it produces video. Just like the 5DII and 7D were video cameras... because they also produce video. End of story.

    @sohus "One thing you can bet on: they won't compete with the C300 and they won't compete with the upcoming 4k DSLR. So there will be major limitations on this baby."

    Well, if the 5DIII solves the majority of the moire problem, skew, and improves then sampling a bit... then it will most likely already have the C300 beat, due to the FF sensor and (very likely) better dynamic range. You have to remember... the image processing in the C300 is OLD. It's a Digic DV III from 2008. It's the same chip as a consumer HF20 for craps sake. People are just drooling over the "elite" factors of the C300. It's not really that impressive of a camera in the grand view of things. On the other hand... DSLRs flagships like the 5DIII are always cutting edge, with the latest chips. They have to be more competitive. I don't really doubt that the 1DX and 5DIII having a better overall IQ than the C300... if Canon doesn't INTENTIONALLY ruin the processing.

    Canon doesn't have to worry though. Even if the 5DIII has RAW video... people will still buy the C300 because "it's t3h biggererer Pr0z camera".

  • ClermondClermond

    @simple that's what I said.

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