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GH5 Panasonic camera, from anticipation to love or hate
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  • DC-GH5 Firmware Update Service Ver.1.1 for Expansion of 4:2:2 10-bit Video Recording Mode Panasonic is announcing the new firmware update program Ver.1.1 for DC-GH5 to further enhance its performance. The new firmware Ver.1.1 enables 4:2:2 10-bit video recording in either FHD [MP4(LPCM)] / [MOV] and Anamorphic (4:3) mode, in addition to the existing 4K video recording mode.

    4:2:2 10-bit FHD [MP4(LPCM)] / [MOV]

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    • When [Miniature Effect] is selected for Creative Control Mode, you cannot select the items used for 4:2:2/10 bit motion pictures.

    4:2:2 10-bit Anamorphic (4:3) mode

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    • [Anamorphic(4:3)] is available only when the camera is set to Creative Video Mode.

    The firmware version 1.1 also includes following firmware fixes that reflect customer feedback:

    • A problem in which the exposure adjustment did not operate properly during live view standby under specific conditions using [Variable Frame Rate].
    • A problem in which afterimages appeared when recording video under high ISO sensitivity settings in using [V-LogL]

    The new DC-GH5 firmware Ver 1.1 is scheduled to be released on 24 April, 2017 at the following LUMIX Customer Support website: http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/

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  • @paulhouston Ever since noticing the weirder discrepancies of the DXOmark tests, I've been suspicious of nebulous score values like we see on that page. I wouldn't put much weight on that. If you check the actual text of the review for IQ it's stated to be better than GH4 across the board: better high ISO noise, better resolution, better colour rendition.

    In the comments someone asked about this inconsistency and a DPreview staff member replied "All of our reviews use 'point in time' scores, meaning that the scores are relative to other competitive products at the time the review is written. (Usually, when the camera is relatively new.) As a result, it's difficult do a direct scoring comparison between a camera released today and one released three years ago.

    The GH4 probably scored a bit higher at the time because relative to competitive models it stood out more in those categories, whereas today there may be other products that compete more effectively in the same categories."

  • @jamesgh2 In the DPReview review of the GH5, if you add GH4 for comparison (on the last page), it also says the GH5 has slightly lower image quality (both raw and jpeg), and worse low-light/high ISO performance.

  • @jamesGH2 GH5 sensor stabilization is much better than a6500s.

  • @jamesgh2 Have to agree with you there is more detail in the GH4 shadows and highlights looking at the puppy clips. Falls in the category of things that make you go Hmmm.

  • @MikeLinn That GH4 vs GH5 test shows that the Dynamic Range on the GH5 is lower. Maybe it is operator error as the settings might have been different. If not then the AF is not the only big drawback on the GH5. I was willing to forget the AF debacle but the dynamic range in my view is a much more important metric. Now if the GH5 is shot on V-Log L then it may be a different story. I am keeping my GH4 for now. GH5 price now seems overly expensive and should have been $1500. The a6500 has better AF, sensor stab and better DR. Im a GH user since the GH2 but the GH5 is not making me drop $ just yet.

  • Olympus 75mm 1.8 (at 1.8) handheld, very high shutter speed. Shot in 23.076p2160 VFR 40%, CineV slightly graded with MBL

  • Another GH5 cage from former Motion9

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  • @nobbystylus Cinematography or videography? Important distinction, unless you think Arri/Zeiss are going to start manufacturing autofocus lenses for the Alexa successor.

  • Has anyone else had trouble getting the gh5 4k mp4's into resolve studio on a PC?

  • @nobbystylus Let me give you a point of view I grew up when SLR auto focus systems were in there infancy and many a pro would not use them for the same reasons cinematographers don't now. It virtually was the same argument. Those auto focus systems became so good few would choose manual focus over auto focus in the photography world today. I see that same paradigm shift coming to cinematography so it is in Panasonics best interests to improve. I also use AFS all the time with some buttons settings to control it but CAF is a no go with Panasonic but I hope that changes. I guess they know it's important now after all they don't make manual focus lenses.

  • I think that most people who have complained about the AF have also mentioned that the image quality is very nice. More people will probably be excited about the IQ after the higher bitrate modes are enabled later this year. In the meantime, it doesn't seem all that surprising that people expect a feature (that was hyped by the vendor to be very good) on an expensive camera to perform similarly to the same feature on a much cheaper camera (e.g. 70D).

  • I am amazed that all everyone is "focusing" on is autofocus. This camera offers so much more... its a dream to use. The 10 bit is delicious and the stabilisation is just ridiculous. I've never used autofocus on a paid shoot - ever - and can't imagine I ever will.

  • Does anyone know of tests demonstrating that using an external recorder (e.g. Atmos Ninja Inferno) improves GH5 autofocus performance?

  • @aldolega Thx for you reply, I'm just looking for some ways that I didn't know before! I used to edit video smoothly (I used GH2 ~70Mbps) and I am new to 4K50p, and never thought that problem will happen...

    I will consider to put more investment on my computer!!

  • I need to do more testing but the AF is not as snappy as my g7 for af-s. I haven't found it to be as terrible as some videos have shown - I found the single area af-c worked ok for me in video mode. Still not as good as A6500 af-c.

    Dual IS 1 works with Mark 1 12-35 and 35-100 f2.8 Also it makes the 35-100 IS useable finally! In photo mode you will see jitter in live view but in video mode it is fine and even works well on slider.

    I'm not getting the weird side to side as in that video review - mine seems fine.

    I feel like it's both over-hyped and over-hated. It's definitely got some great features and I like using it far more than the g7. I really like the focus rack feature. I've been waiting for years for someone to put that in the camera - seemed like a no brainier to me.

  • @Eno... Have you owned Panasonics in this line? The lowest native setting is ISO 200. Not sure if they enabled extended lower ISO but if it's an option the quality and DR would be compromised anyways.

  • Hi guys. Try to turn the custom AF OFF and set the focus area to 1-area AF and give it a shot. See how you like it.