Another thing that I thought is that if this is indeed a multi-aspect sensor and it works similarly to the LX100. It means that in 16:9 it might be 18MP, but in 4:3 it's 20+MP, in 3:2 is 19-20MP, this turns this Photo 4K much closer to the E-M1 II's 60fps burst, but again, different approaches, faster RAW burst vs longer JPEG burst.

Also, if Panasonic does improve AF tracking and it works in Photo 6K, it means that 30fps is faster than E-M1 II's 18fps in AF-C, which is Panasonic's way to also bring interesting feats for Photographers as well since they see the GH5 as a hybrid.

I say that because I would had preferred if Panasonic separated the GH5 and GX8 II line ups into 13MP and 24MP, both with V-log so they can also complement each other, like Sony does with the A7s and A7R, they would still be hybrids but each focused in a different front, it would bring less compromise for photo and video.

@LPowell Why are you tagging me into that discussion? I've never mentioned you, I don't even know who you are nor the people that were talking about you. I think you are mistaking me with someone else.

@Vitaliy_Kiselev but I think you are both talking about @Brig, not me.

I simply wrote articles about the GH5 and wanted to discuss more about codecs, encoding, etc.

I've never talked about JVC firmware, Panasonic and him or anything like that, his reply doesn't seem to address anything I was talking about, otherwise I've no idea what's going on.

Another quote on Panasonic considering GH5

No eunuch flatters his despot more basely or uses more despicable means to stimulate his dulled capacity for pleasure in order to sneak a favour for himself than does the industrial eunuch – the producer – in order to sneak for himself a few pieces of silver, in order to charm the golden birds, out of the pockets of his dearly beloved neighbours in Christ. He puts himself at the service of the other’s most depraved fancies, plays the pimp between him and his need, excites in him morbid appetites, lies in wait for each of his weaknesses – all so that he can then demand the cash for this service of love.

K. Marx

In other words - Panasonic is not making GH5 in most efficient, cheap and upgradable way. Panasonic is making camera that will provide maximally possible profit, but will still have enough bite features to lure you, to make you pay for them. And 6 months after GH5 release they will offer similar product but for ones who just did not have enough silver pieces for first one, but margins will still make all shareholders more than happy. Your function is not to use existing products to make films or photos - your sole and only important goal is to consume Panasonic products.

but I think the truth is somewhere inbetween..

It is not "inbetween". As all this brilliant engineers get all main work direction by their management.

So, I'll add another quote:

It can't be denied that individual initiative has given, and still giving, brilliant results in various spheres of science, technology and art. This is, and has been, the case where the initiative coincides closely with the general trend of the traditions, tastes and interests of ruling class - the bourgeoisie.

@zetty

You actually try to describe one of main capitalism issues without being to express it. Main goal of ruling class, corporation shareholders and top management is opposite of the workers goal, including all engineers. And it is such across all and every corporation and factory. So, yes, many brilliant engineers make many good things. But. It is not them who set main goals, set price points, get most margins and make always horrible, expensive marketing campaigns.

@DrDave

As I understand - one issue is Sony sensors plant where their already through series of lies. Second issue is situation with Panasonic LSI, as they cut big since GH4 and joined forces with other companies. For years compacts, TZ and LX financed LSI development and production, and mirrorless build on them.

And now you have all issues in one place - outsourced sensor, half outsources LSI with no free money to finance development, and big group of marketers/representatives in local US and EU offices who became larger while sales of cameras tanked.

@DrDave

If you ask me, Japanese management is afraid about GH5, and want to see feedback to select few things.

Modern camera of such level already must have compressed 14 bit raw (and interframe one!) and 10-bit and 8bit HEVC as smaller options. Time to put all this LOG time to rest.

10-bit 422 advantages

The chart is meaningless without information about what it represents!

That's to say over 3000 $/€!!!!

$2799 - with that price I hope it can show exposure numbers (iso, aperture and shutter speed).