@inqb8tr if that's the case then it might be wise to see what else is available this year, especially if 4k is something that is desirable to a shooter.

@AdamT, I think the PDF made it clear that you can record the 4K thru HDMI -

"4:2:2 10-bit Output In Creative Video Mode, it is possible to output motion pictures* through the HDMI connection in higher picture quality. Ideal when the HDMI output is to be saved on external devices."

They did not qualify that statement by saying you could only do that thru the "brick". I admit that it doesn't actually say 4K in that statement tho.

I would not call it "truly professional-looking rig" looks more like collection of nice tools on rods :)

is that a POS terminal on that rig?

Clearly some things aren't quite clear yet :-)

HDMI out says 8bit or 10bit, perhaps 10 bit 1080p and 8 bit 4K?

The main thing is people are disappointed about the price of the brick but when you look at the specs of the cam only, EVEN if it doesn't have 10bit 4K on that HDMI out, those specs are pretty impressive and much better than the competition, especially considering the price! I do think that if that brick is $2K and you really want 4K your best bet is BMC4K. Hopefully they'll be releasing an active m43 version of the BMC4K!

In any case, just for the body, €1299 excl VAT seems very reasonable to me but lets await the tests first. (coming in may 2014)

@Vitaliy_Kiselev

"Few things to understand. Rec. 2020 video will be always INFERIOR to usual one."

+1 on this, and i'm posting an italian movie, shot with Sony F55, and some millions euro budget, by famous italian actor-director. Tell me what you think about these images...

Cinematographer Ennio Guarnieri did some Fellini's movies, and other movies with great photography, so we are not speaking about an amateur.

Nope, but i see here Sony F55 with Rec. 2020 color looking like a telenovelas (in interiors), and the DP made some very good movies in his carreer. Average people at cinema will not see the difference, but i find this photography terrible.

I bet there were no colorist, and i see the master is 2k (probably they shoot in 2k). An Alexa would had be much better, especially for a master DP like Guarnieri and an high seven figures of euro production.

Anyway, to stay in topic, i think one reason could be that nobody around there even knew if they used Rec 709 or Rec 2020.

@crisvpl as I understad it both Atoms Ninja 2 and Odyssey7 do. http://www.convergent-design.com/Products/Odyssey7.aspx#Specs-21

atomos ninja 2 is 1080 60i only... and Odysse 7 is indeed 60p. but on hdmi is only 422 8 bit. on SDI only is 10 bit. is it posible to use a HDMI to SDI converter to have 10 bit? in order to use it with BMPCC for instance...

Now, we must remember that Rec. 2020's color points are for CONSUMER-END broadcast video, not necessarily commercial cinemas or professional post work. If you look at Rec. 709 and compare the two, it does look like Rec. 2020 is superior. Industry types seem to think so.

But Rec. 2020 also includes high frame rates, higher bit depth, whole frame rates (24 fps rather than 23.97, etc.) and the like, so it definitely is a couple of steps in the right direction. Now, will 4k displays, 4k discs, and other electronics have it included soon? HDMI specs. will have to be improved since 2.0 does not accept all of the ITU profiles.

Could just be awkward phrasing but it sounds like 4K is downsampled to 1080p when recording via micro-HDMI.

No, it means that camera check display EDID and if It does not support 4K makes downsample.

I hope Vitaliy is right too but there's more evidence stacking up against it. Convergent Design is stating a "popular codec" (ProRes?) will be available for 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 via the YAGH accessory:

Just wanted to note that with the addition of the YAGH accessory base to the GH4, the Odyssey7Q will be able to record 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 video in a high quality "popular codec".

I'm trying to confirm that the signal isn't acquirable via micro HDMI.