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  • Make no mistake, 12-35 is a nice photo lens, sharp, fine low light capabilities for the range. Unfortunately not great bokeh compared to full frame. For stills it's perfect as the size is m43 style. However during video the lens OIS system does not seem to suit my handling, will compare to kit lens asap and see if this "micro vibration" problem I have is the same there but for me it's a deal breaker, can't accept such a problem in a production tool. Really happy to hear if there are success stories about handheld video work with this lens, then maybe my copy just need some fixing.

    All further discussions in Lens forum please.

  • @scotchtape Do not rename if they are spanned files. In my experience it will mess it up and no more spanning.

  • @Qadri

    Try to focus lens talk in 12-35mm topic, so it'll be easy to find.

  • Some amazing pictures taken with the 12-35mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/panasonicuk/7999449933/in/photostream/ (most with that lens). Stunning in low light.

  • Ok. If ff is what you need then I understand. Would be interesting to see how it compares in video/image and other departments.

    I'm going to try experimenting with ex tele on my 14-42mm and see if that's enough zoom for me for the time being.

  • @Qadri, I understand where your coming from. Dropping big money on faulty electronics sucks. I love the G6 but the FF of the A7 stole my heart. I've always liked Sony cameras, hopefully the A7 delivers on its promises.

    I have a Panasonic Lumix 45-150mm lens which I like a lot. Not very fast but it's cheap reach when I need it and I've used it more than I would have thought in the beginning. I'd love to have the 35-100mm myself.

  • Point taken hionhifi. It's quite easy though to get that feeling though when making tough choices. I can't afford it at the moment anyway so it made me feel better :-). what I had in mind was to keep the newer, compact 14-42mm and when I get money to use the 35-100 for bigger events where more distance is required.

  • @Quadri, poppycock! Put off...because of 1 bad report. What about the thousands of positive experiences users have with the combo. If your this easily put off maybe you should rethink buying any electronic product. :)

  • This is the internet doing what it does best; stir unnecessary fear. I love the thread but lets not jump the gun here and damn all Panasonic Lumix 12-35mm lens because 1 users lens has "micro-vibrations". His very may well have that issue but I doubt it's endemic.

    The "micro-vibrations" MikeA is referring to have nothing to do with the camera body as the stabilization is in the lens. Furthermore, I'd caution against damning the lens. It's more likely that Mike's specific lens is defective than ALL the 12-35mm lens being defective. Untold numbers of 12-35mm lens have been sold and I haven't read of any epidemic issues with the micro vibrations Mike is experiencing.

    I speak from experience. I own the 12-35mm lens and a G6. I use them for video, timelapse (electronic shutter is awesome!), and of course photos. Until My Sony A7 arrives, the G6 and 12-35mm are my main kit and have been for oh... 2-3 months now. I haven't experienced any issues with the pair.

    I want to be clear: MikeA's may very well be having issues. I just don't think it's all 12-35mm or 35-100mm Lumix lens.

    In short, Focus on the specific lens being the issue not all Panasonic Lumix 12-35mm or 35-100mm lens. G6, GH3, G5 has nothing to do with it.

  • I was thinking of getting that lens too!

  • MikeA, is that because it is more suited to work on the GH3? If that is the state of the 12-35mm, is it the same for the 35-100mm? (I think people use them as a pair). This would have been a dream pair for me on the G6 but I'm put off now (thankfully :) -as they are very expensive).

  • Micro vibration everywhere! ouch, even after updating firmware I get incredible amounts of micro vibrations from the Panasonic 12-35 lens on a G6. All footage shoot without tripod is basically unusable and will require washing in Premiere Stabilizer. I like the 12-35 less and less. Camera shake is one thing and acceptable but that a OIS lens cannot eliminate the small vibrations is pretty unforgivable I think.

  • yes...this orginal and this new one (not orginal)....booth show power lvl.

  • @digitalamator does your battery show power level ?

  • Yes, i,m from Poland and this is polish site but i think you can buy this battery on ebay too, just looking for name: BLC 12

    Acording last questions....i have class 10 card and dont have any problem. Battery live is...,hard to say i think. I dont know how long it live with constantly record but if i record, stop, on, off...ect this battery work about 2Gb files.

  • @digitalamator thanks but I can not even read the content of the site. I think it is in polish.

  • I have a shoot coming up, and I';m thinking of renting a G6 or a GH3. Need to know two questions about the G6:

    1. How much recording time is in a single battery charge?
    2. Are there any problems spanning files on a Transcend Class 10 card?
  • @cjdincer

    I bought my battery here http://video3000.pl/. Thisbattery works great. I can recomandet it. It names: BLC 12.

  • @rivo_kikkul yes, I am curious about what settings you guys use on GH2 and G6, when you use both of them for an interview or film project to be able to macth them on the same timeline. like smooth all-2.

  • @ cjdincer I have both G6 and GH2...You need identical picture?

  • @eyenorth do you have both GH2 and G6? and if you do, could give us some info on how you set them both in a project? on an interview shot for example.Thanks.

  • @brake In-camera NR on the G6 is pretty well implemented, so the video it brings out from the same sensor as GH2 is cleaner. For most things I prefer shooting on the G6.

  • @Brake, Your question was very clear, when it comes to low light it's not really as much a bit rate issue as it is a light issue. Bigger sensor means more light so large sensor cameras has an edge. That said, of course higher bit rate of course means less lossy compression which results in smaller zones of smeared noise on the image, so a hack may improve performance a bit.

  • @hionhifi

    Sorry maybe I wasn't clear with my question. I don't expect the G6 be anywhere near as good as the 5D3, I guess I was wondering how the GH3 compares to it.

    I was more wondering how the G6 compares to the GH2 in ISO performance....

  • @scotchtape yeah, I was looking for a workflow to help with this AVCHD redundant filename issue in Premiere Pro too. Let me know if you have one figured out.

    I read about it (links below). I think they got stuck on the metadata issue. It seems it didn't get confirmed that it's sorted out:

    A workflow: http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/942907

    From: http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/930849#930849 "Re: Batch renaming AVCHD files for Premiere Pro CS6? by Douglas Morse on Apr 7, 2013 at 4:43:38 pm

    I'm not sure if this will help, but I just discovered a work around. Right click on a file in Premiere and 'Reveal in Adobe Bridge' You can then rename and batch rename all the files in that folder. I don't know what happens to the metadata, but I think it remains intact."