Official Sony NEX 5N topic

stoney

@Mimirsan I thought 5N gives only 14% wider FOV than GH2 in 16:9 aspect ratio. Or is it 25%?

kompu

My hack wishlist-

Higher bit-rates: at least 50Mbit/s for 25p :)
Clean HDMI output.

Mimirsan

love my 5n...love it...havent used my GH2 since owning it. Video quality is damn good enough and photo quality is just amazing (one thing Panasonic NEED to sort out in future high end models)
Shutter is quick and has a nice sound
not overheated once & clicking not a problem for me
took a little while getting used to button layout but now all shortcuts are in place
nice to use a f2.8 or f3.5 lens in lowlight at iso 400 and have very usable video/stills
never had to need to go over 800 iso
peaking is great (as experiment I relied solely on mf peaking...footage was in focus)
EVF is okay...its not bad but neither is its stunning or fools you that its a optical one (as reviews make out)...also its a bit dim...so evf is dissapointing to me..but this is probably the reviews fault.
I tend to use 25p mode but using 50p gives very nice motion capture.
My FD/voigtlander/super tak lenses have new life...less crop I can at last use my 50mms without being across the room!
Oh and its sexy white in a real black leather halfcase lol

At the end of the day...its a damn nice camera.
Do I sell my GH2? hmmmmmmm
If Panasonics new range of cameras do not have better stills ability and mf peaking for video..I wont be wanting one....now I have these things I wont want to shoot without them

stoney

How about shutter lag for AF and MF?

Any faster than 5N?

squig

My hack wishlist-

Higher bit-rates: at least 50Mbit/s for 60p.
Noise reduction LOW and OFF switchable in video and JPEG modes.
24/25p 50/60p region switchable.
More picture profile editing options.
Viewfinder style horizontal exposure meter on the LCD (The EVF has it).
No overlays on the HDMI out.
Add battery display to NO DISP INFO.
Get rid of the MENU, CUSTOM, MF, and little people icons.
Zebras.
Cropmarks.

Just the higher bit-rate 60p alone would be enough to make this the "Ninja cam".

squig

I've been doing some tests and so far I"m very impressed with the 5N. The image quality, dynamic range, and high ISO in 24p mode beats every other APS-C DSLR and the panny M/43 cameras and is right up there with the 5D. 60p is too heavily compressed. I've been shooting everything in portrait mode with everything dialled down. It looks like Canon neutral but is more saturated.

The EVF died on the second day, just flickered while I was changing ISO and blacked out. The clicking doesn't worry me too much because I boom all my sound but I'll swap it if there's a product recall.

I've seen the overheating symbol once so far shooting in the sun after a few minutes. I wouldn't use only one body on a shoot but I would consider just swapping 2 or 3 bodies like rolls of film. I bought it as a b-cam for my 5D. I need 60p and I figured due to the price and the great sensor that this thing would be very hack worthy.

People have complained about access to controls like ISO and WB. You can assign up to 5 functions to the scroll wheel/joystick. I find it as easy to use as the 5D.

Mimirsan

I guess it could be sensor related to the sweep panorama feature...like a ballbearing that switches the sensor mode from portrait to landscape? as you now hold the camera sidways to do sweep photos...hence why on nex c3 and 5n?
hx9 might do the same...will try it lol

ed_lee83

@stonebat I dunno really, she's American and says "awesome" to every bloody thing!

Anyway, back on topic: Here's an example of a particularly bad case of the clicking noises (and it's a Japanese user!). Seems like every movement has that noise: http://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0000281278/SortID=13488512/MovieID=797/

stoney

Good as long as the boss lady says ok.

ed_lee83

@stonebat Way to go off on a tangent but OK...
Incidentally I had this conversation with the producer today. She wanted me to pan the camera and I asked her if she wants a slow or fast pan. She said: "Well, not too slow and not too fast would be nice". In the end I wouldn't say the pan was classified as "useful" but she was fine with it.

stoney

Prolly you already know this. Useful panning is either slow panning or fast panning.

ed_lee83

5N users have just discovered something odd about the camera. There seems to be something 'loose' inside the body that when the camera is panning or tilting a 'clicking' noise is heard and - as if something inside is rocking about. At first I thought it was the metal clips on the side but it's definitely something inside the camera.
The seriousness of the problem seems to variate among users. For my camera it can be evidently heard when moving the camera at quick speeds, but there's no problem when panning/tilting at slow or 'regular' speeds.
I did a test video to demonstrate it. I recorded this in a fairly silent environment so the noise is quite obvious:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1042&message=39340224

Mimirsan

I wouldn't worry too much about it...seems to be common for the bigger aps-c sensored cameras anyway. Canon/Nikons DSLRs overheat...at least sony point it out and have a pre shutdown warning.

ed_lee83

Shocking! I never knew! Thanks everybody for sharing their warnings. I'll need to have a backup since we've only started shooting

Mimirsan

you get overheating if you record continuosly

Not really a problem for me as Im a short length shooter in bloody cold england.
mines finally gonna be on its way..got the evf already

AmandaNL

Edited my post with this link:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-nex-5n-news-and-reviews-roundup-overheating-issues/

ed_lee83

@AmandaNL Where did you read that? I had an all-day shoot yesterday in 30-degree Celsius and 90% humidity conditions but no overheating...

AmandaNL

Was thinking of having the 5n as a second body, but with the heat problems it's a nono......

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-nex-5n-news-and-reviews-roundup-overheating-issues/

ed_lee83

@stonebat Thanks man. As I said these are just rushes. I'll post the finished vid in due time. The silent scenes are obviously the 50p shots.
Agree on the film look description. It's a combination of many factors. One thing I really enjoy over the GH2 is the shallower depth of field.
But I was very unhappy when I found out I couldn't use non-Sony batteries and generic DC couplers to use with my external battery like I am with my GH2.

stoney

@ed_lee83 I like the two silent scenes. Especially the latter one. Some might say, "omg that little 5N gives film look". Hehe. But I think it's mostly to do with the good lighting & framing. Nice job.

Rambo

Beach Volleyball ... now that's videography

Rambo

That's better, camera movement and reality. Nice framing Ed.

ed_lee83

@Rambo It suits certain situations I think. I call it "videotography" (as opposed to videography). It's like a series of moving portraits.

But if you want handheld footage I just posted my rushes of a video I'm working on.
Shot with a Tokina 28-70 (i.e. no I.S.) on 25p, colour style Vivid:

Rambo

I don't get those static type videos, why not just shoot a stills sequence???

routetroupe

new 5n video. Sky looks great, no color banding. Sunset mode that EOSHD talked about was used. This is not my video, I'm just posting the link.

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