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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    We all moan about BM communication but the fact remains whatever they officially say or don't say we are going to buy these cameras when they release them. Grant can do a press conference drunk and naked swearing at all of us......it will change nothing......we're going to buy the cameras.

  • TrumpetmanTrumpetman

    @Tron spot on!

  • TronTron

    @Trumpetman I think it's this generation's ridiculous entitlement mentality, continuously reinforced by Facebook attention-whorism and the resulting gratification cycle. This culminates in uncontrollable temper tantrums that span the Internet whenever the afflicted's insignificance is realized at a subconscious level.

  • TrumpetmanTrumpetman

    Why all the vitriol? Yes, Blackmagic has had some problems but what they are doing with the pocket cam and the other cams is incredible. I put my preorder in as soon as I heard the news and they are shipping exactly when they said they would. I guess some people can never be pleased.

  • mpgxsvcdmpgxsvcd

    It kind of feels like we are watching Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory. Who are the lucky ones that are going to get the golden ticket?

  • feonnfeonn

    The only fault BMD has is not the obvious delay of pocket and production cameras. I can understand that, there is much to be done in order to make these cameras work as promised and even better.

    Their fault is their silence. Silence that makes every assumption, every bad expectation seem possible.

    They should honestly give a statement and tell us the time range they expect the camera to actually ship. They already said the Pocket is in production. That means they KNOW the number of pre-orders and demand, they know the time a production of X number of camera would take, etc.

    They should just say clearly "all preorders to date will be produced by 20 August and arrive at resellers on 25th (for example)". Then I would know that I get my camera by the end of the month. I can plan shooting with it and don't worry about when and ifs...

    Ok, the preorders can be pretty big. They can't produce it so fast. That's fine too, I can understand. But then they'll know again the numbers. Fulfil the pre-orders made before end of may only. They'll ship first and those ordered before that would know when they get their cameras.

    It can be they don't want to make it public. It's fine! Just tell your resellers how much of their pre-orders will ship and when... It is that easy, but they prefer to tease us with their (black)magical silence.

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    @MaulKentor

    Nice find!

  • GravitateMediaGroupGravitateMediaGroup

    wow, in 2013 people still do the whole "I TOLD YOU SO" routine. But HONESTLY, nobody cares if "you told us so" It's a good camera, and nobody is going to make you buy it. Those of us that do want it, will continue to use what we have until the pocket shows up, instead of venting over the internet about what's wrong with BMD.....a company that is only in their 2nd year of making cameras.

  • MaulKentorMaulKentor

    Haven't seen anybody mention this yet but I noticed on B&H blackmagic design has a battery that seems to be almost the same as the nikon EN-EL20 except it's 7.4v instead of 7.2v and is also only 14.95 instead of 44.95 for the nikon one. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/994420-REG/blackmagic_design_bmpccass_batt_pocket_cinema_camera.html

  • IronFilmIronFilm

    @Chaos123x , got the link here:

    https://twitter.com/Blackmagic_News/status/362341282279985152 "New Camera Utility 1.4 Software Update! Features support for now shipping Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera. Download now!"

    I think this is Fantastic BMPCC news! And I'll note the datestamp on the tweet is in July ;-) They've succeeded with their promise, or so they think at least.

  • JBV_CINEJBV_CINE

    Haters gonna hate... Creators gonna create... Camera delayed use another one till it comes.. In the last couple of months I've shot gh3, red epic, 7d, c300 and arriflex sr3.. There is no one camera for every job and weather my pocket comes next week or in 3months it will not be my only paintbrush... Do I want it badly yes... Is it revolutionary no but it is evolutionary and is it worth the wait... Yes.

  • danyyyeldanyyyel

    @MikhailK I think the scarlet and BMC cameras are totally different things. Since day one of the announcement last year they had a prototype on display while no one ever saw a scarlet 2/3 except for 3d render. The timing also is completely different, the bmc was available about 6 month late even in very very limited quantities. The scarlet took at least 3 years to be cancelled. The last thing is that blackmagic is catering for the mass market while red 3k to 3k had gone up to 8k plus addons for the scarlet vapour-ware.

    Could anyone have thought that they would be shooting RAW for $1000. So I think the company need some encouragement, at least they are trying. After some thought about the availability of the BM pocket camera, I went and bought an Atomos Ninja for my D7100. I have been pleasantly surprise from the test that I have done about the Nikon D7100 and think that Raw won't make me a much better shooter. It is not as if we have been bombarded with extra, super, mega footage since the BMC is readily available and must have sold in the thousands. What I mean is that if someone has a camera like the gh3, g6, d5200, d7100 and he cannot do good video with them, I don't think that the BM pocket will make his video much better.

  • ickejohannesickejohannes

    "Now for those wanting an active m4/3 2.5K BMCC, I’m told that it will still be some time before that’s possible. Basically, it’s a fairly big job to redesign not only the mount, but the electronics inside. It will still be some time before this becomes an option on the BMCC, but obviously they’ve shown it can be done now ! My impression is it still months away from being able to be done."

    (http://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/the-pocket-rocket-blackmagic-downsizes-the-bmcc-and-does-a-4k-upsize-of-the-orginal/)

    Now this may not be a promise, but it did make me think at the time that there was an active MFT version coming...

    Does your above post mean there'll never be one?

  • johnbrawleyjohnbrawley

    BMD never promised an active MFT 2.5k. Love to see your link for that.

    They are a privately owned company. The shareholder is also the CEO so he can do whatever he likes. You can choose to buy it. Or not and tell everyone else not to as well.

    In a year when many other digital camera companies have failed, they're shipping their first gen cameras and starting to get their next models out the door. I'd rather have them hang in there.

    JB.

  • MikhailKMikhailK

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev sorry, got your point.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @MikhailK @jimmykorea

    Keep yout talks away from discussing how "fucked" is the company.

  • MikhailKMikhailK

    @jimmykorea Totally disagree with you.

    "The EF sensor was an isolated incident, the MFT you can't really complain about cause it was a rapid response from BM..."

    They had guge production and delivery delays with EF and non-active MFT!

    "And even comparing things to the Red Scarlet means you never really went through it."

    RED announced "Scarlet" almost 3 years (if I recall correctly) prior to the "event" - the very first delivery of Scarlet-X RED. They were telling the audience that the prototype was ready and sales will start within a year... This is the same situation with BM!

    "The only real "problem" as I can see is BM is a smallish specialist company that is making a camera that everyone wants too much..."

    All of my current comments and the comments in my previous post mean the following:

    1. Who cares if BM is a small company!
    2. In the world of mass-business the first thing you gotta care about is YOUR (the COMPANY's) OFFICIAL WORD and YOUR REPUTATION!

    If you (BM or other company) make such kinda statements (press releases, huge puplic events) saying that your product (I didn't even mention BPC 4k, they screwed up this thing even more than with BMPCC): 1) Will be shipped in JULY, 2) It'll have RAW, 3) The firmware will be ready,

    You gotta DO your BEST and deliver everything right on time or earlier!

    There's no excuse with respect to such kinda situation! It's business and nothing personal and no offence!

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    @MikhailK Yeah I can see some people having a few grumbles about delivery times and communication but your way off. The EF sensor was an isolated incident, the MFT you can't really complain about cause it was a rapid response from BM therefore you got to be thankful they even tried. And even comparing things to the Red Scarlet means you never really went through it.

    The only real "problem" as I can see is BM is a smallish specialist company that is making a camera that everyone wants too much. It's the Cronut of the camera world.

  • MikhailKMikhailK

    Oh...this fu...ing Pocket little baby...

    Unfortunately, I was right regarding this fu...ing company, right from the beginning of this thread (see page 2, April 8). Here are my comments as of April 8:

    "This pocket baby is just another marketing bullshit! Everything will change for sure (it'll be worse in some specs...)!!!" ------ For now we know that there will be no RAW in the "early shipments" :-)

    "If the members of PV remember, initial BMCC's "marketing" (whith Canon mount) started a long time ago. Where are all these orders now? Some pre-orders are still in the "pre-orders" status? A lot of orders are still in the process of delivery/manufacturing."

    "About a year ago they (BMCC team) promised us a non-active m4/3 version of BMCC? Where is it now?"

    "About a year ago they promised us an active m4/3 version of BMCC? Where is it now?"

    "This whole f...ing company reminds me of the RED Scarlet's marketing (initial price was $3000...). Everybody knows what happened then..."

    What a shame and disgrace that Blackmagic Design guys have FUCKED UP once again since the "wonderful" situation that happened to BMCC!!!!!!!!

    Actually, from the point of the shareholders of Blackmagic Design I would have fired CEO!!!! Or this man must retire!!!

  • TheNewDealTheNewDeal

    I'll wait 60 days, and take advantage of other's experience. Who knows. Maybe something else even better will be announced by then. Right now, my Panasonics and Canons are getting projects done just fine.

  • Chaos123xChaos123x

    Also check out the Blackmagic Pocket product page on blackmagicdesign.com

    It has changed from shipping in July to BUY NOW! (Just gives links to authorized dealers).

  • Chaos123xChaos123x

    Well it's officially shipping finally!!!! BlackMagic just posted this on their twitter feed.

    "New Camera Utility 1.4 Software Update! Features support for now shipping Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera. Download now!"

    Lets hope the rumors of just one camera per retailer is not true.

  • No_SuRReNDeRNo_SuRReNDeR

    LOL sorry had to break the tension... I am just going to wait patiently for mine and be pleasantly surprised when it does. :)

  • Chaos123xChaos123x

    Call me now!

  • luxisluxis

    @No_SuRReNDeR :) I have not pre ordered anything so I am just fine ;) Maybe BM should call this number right away so can make all the pre ordered cameras appear by tomorrow-last day of July or at least ask the fortune teller for a real date of arrival so people can rest assure.

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