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Cheap 27" 2560x1440 monitors based on S-IPS panels
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  • Vitaliy--thanks for the info, I will check out Video Pro 9, I did not know they did the 9 cameras multicam. Of course, I already bought the PremierePro but the Magix products always has better audio capabilities. Maybe I will install a trial and see if there is a speed difference. Now that I have had the monitor a few days, I would also mention that the monitor is very thin, because the power supply is external. The PS is actually pretty big, more of a brick. The other thing is that when you go back to a different monitor, you really appreciate the fact that the pixels are so small on the catleap. As far as the color accuracy for post production, I have no real way to measure that. My feeling on this is that whatever the tech is, it is pretty good--the colors seem deeper and richer than on my Asus or Samsung TV. It isn't as high contrast as my 4.5" OLED phone sreen, but an OLED monitor that size would be pretty pricey. Any monitor has to be calibrated. One thing to keep in mind is that when previewing the final product, you are no longer in "native pixel mode". So for example on my TV and my Asus IPS monitors, the 1920x1080 is mapped to the video output. I don't see this as an issue so far, but just like with audio gear, you have to assume that most ppl will not watch the final product on a TV or monitor that many pixels. If you work with documents, you will appreciate the fact that you can put two pages up with a bit of space on the edges for menus, toolbars. etc. That is, without much fussing you can see a 1:1 of a piece of paper.

  • In multicam mode, you can put all the cams on one screen--hence the 27" IPS screen.

    Yep, this is good. Btw Video Pro from MAGIX has 9 cameras multicam also. And can work on many monitors.

  • Magix is a really good program. I do like the Premiere pro with the cuda/mercury engine. Even with the bloatware it works well. In multicam mode, you can put all the cams on one screen--hence the 27" IPS screen.

  • @Oedipax

    They copy this list of cards. It is not actual really. Any card with dual link DVI port will work.

    Well, if you run premiere pro,

    This is worse thing in Premiere, still lack of OpenCL support on Windows. This is why I like MAGIX products that can use even available Intel GPU resources, not only good AMd GPUs.

  • Well, if you run premiere pro, you will be using Nvidia, presumably, my GT240 cost $35 on eBay. You have to have the special high density dual DVI port. It comes with the right cable. Basically, if your graphics card won't drive a high res monitor, you need a new one, but they are cheap. I would say, if it says it won't work, it probably won't, but there are so many cards you could use instead.

  • I'm so eager to order one of these next time I get paid - but I noticed on some of the eBay listings they write some graphics cards won't work, and my ATI Radeon 5870 is one of them. Anyone know if this is true? I've seen forum posts that say it will work but I won't see any startup/BIOS screen type info, just my OS once it's loaded. I can probably live with that (I'm running OS X Lion).

  • Hi Vitaliy, you know the guy in the link above covered every little detail of the monitor, including the bubble wrap, the pixels, the stand, the circuit boards, the buttons, and so on. My personal view (if I may use that phrase) is that you take it out of the box, plug it in with the special cable, and you go wow. Now, since I have an IPS monitor from Asus, I was not expecting that it would be a lot better. But it is. So I suspect that this is a later, or better version of IPS, like H-IPS as you suggested, and the photo of the pixels you posted seems to confirm that. I expected a few dead pixels, but I did not get any. Zero. But the pixels are so very small, well, it would not be a deal breaker for me. As others have noted, it does not have a lot of controls, but I use a Huey pro, so I just calibrate it. Colors were richer than I expected. Another surprise is that when running Arcsoft totalmedia to view an MP4 file, it looks really great upscaled. Not digital at all--smooth, almost analog. My monitor did not have any buzz or coil whine. Running DAWs with lots of tracks, wow, you can just see so many tracks and items. Running word processor software, or music software, you can get two pages up that are larger than 1:1 for a real sheet of paper. Running Premiere, it seems fine, maybe a bit less zippy, but of course the screen is drawing four times as many objects. So far, seems like very few glitches considering the resolution. I suppose if I ran it it 1920 mode, it would be the same as the old monitor. Something has to draw those extra vectors. Haven't tried any 4K stuff yet.

    OK the glare--it does not have the thick, anti-reflective coating. It isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Don't use it near an open window. Without the coating, it is clearer, less muddy, but of course catches reflections. Backlight: it isn't 100 percent even, as others have noted, but it is way better than my Asus IPS, with less of the greenish tint. I prefer it to the larger Dells I have used, but by a narrow margin. I would also say that compared to the glass plated screens, it has slightly less glare, to my eye. The details are really clear. Heat--runs cool, even after hours. Viewing angle: good, but why would I view it way off angle? Stand is OK for me, tilts and swivels, and you can replace it if you wish. I don't wish. I don't ever look at the stand.

    Random thoughts: great for multicam, large multitrack DAW projects and brochure proofs. Negatives: warranty. Really, in all respects better than I expected. Is there a better one for $3000 like the Eizo ColorEdge CG275W? I have no idea! Do I believe it is similar or the same as an Apple display? I do believe, but I prefer without the glass, which this has.

    Main things you notice right away: BIG Thin, thin bezel--mostly monitor, not bezel. Good color Super small pixels Slightly cool, LED like light which all the LEDs have that I have seen. Happy to answer any questions. Happy camper so far.

  • @DrDave

    Do you plan to make full review? May be video one?

    As for 30", they seem to be quite pricey, I think you could find 30" Dell for not much more if search carefully.

  • I got the DHL shipping to my door in just a few days from green-sum. Of course, now I want a 30" http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH300-IPSBS-S-IPS-Panel-QHD-2560x1600-16-10-DVI-30-LCD-Monitor-/160760450119?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item256e11cc47 Quality ofthe 27" is better than my Asus 23" IPS.

  • DrDave, I am pleased to hear that. Really tempted, by the way. :) I found Korean seller who offers Free FedEx! :)

  • @DrDave

    Short and on point :-)

  • Here's my review: Holy Cow!

  • People who have calibration tools have said that it cleans up nicely. Main complaint is dead pixels, which is the main complaint for any item. I don't care about dead pixels, since I plan on spilling food on it anyway. So basically, we will see. Photos of the actual pixels look like the more recent, higher end pixels, and the pixel size is of course very small. At that price, I can always find a use for it somewhere. Anyway, it will be here in a couple of days. I have an IPS panel from Asus already, so I will compare it to that. And I will calibrate it, of course. Another issue with these monitors is the lack of a thick, antiglare surface. There seems to be some discussion to the effect that an inexpensive AG coating would be a mistake, as the pixel size is so small that it would blur fine detail. I can relate to this point of view, although I use AG for my driving glasses. There are "add on" AG films. We will see in a few days. Anyway, three Benjamins, ya know, for a 27" IPS monitor. Can't be all bad, unless it arrives all bunged up. Ack! Realistically, this guy has covered everything already http://www.overclock.net/t/1215866/reviewed-400-2560x1440-ips-no-ag-90hz-achieva-shimian-qh270-and-catleap-q270 But I'll try to add any details.

  • I ordered a 3view bank zero dead pixel model of ebay. Took 3 or 4 days to get. Had to get a plug adaptor for it to make it plug into us outlet. The only thing.like others mentioned is the stand for it isn't all that great. The colors out of the box were nice. I plan on getting it calibrated. I wasn't sure so i didn't post it but a better write up i did on it on my site. If its ok ill post the link.

  • DrDave, looking forward to your review! :) Any Experience with calibration anyone? Cheapest good tool for it? :)

  • Hope it'll be good.

    Will be waiting for your review.

  • I just ordered the Catleap 27", will review it when it arrives. Got the cheapest one, no glass, speakers, etc. Required a Dual DVI card, but of course most people doing video would have something like that.

  • @duartix @vitaliy_kiselev

    The only option on my monitor is brightness control, nothing else at all. However, when I run my Spyder 2 on it, it calibrates the colour in the system ICC profile and still looks great, and as it should.

  • @duartix

    I think none of monitors can be calibrated just using their menus.
    But using proper calibrator and graphics card all must be ok.

    We'll see, most probably we'll have deals on some of this monitors.

  • @itimjim What do you mean by can't calibrate manually? Using the on-screen menus? Have you tried using an hardware calibration device?

  • By the way, I have exactly the same panel as this, just named Hazro, and sells for £400 in the UK. This is bargain of the century. Very difficult/impossible to calibrate manually, but they're quite accurate out of the box. Nothing that your graphics card can't handle though.

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    This picture whows that this is also H-IPS screen (as in original S-IPS, pixels are like <<< )

    Check some measurements of one specific model (may be we'll have some korean users to translate this for us)

    http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=slr_review&page=1&divpage=1&ss=on&keyword=q270&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=252

    monitor1.jpg
    731 x 266 - 52K
  • love my 27" iMac at work, the screen is amazing.. I run windows 7 on it mainly , but its a rocking screen, the iMac is glossy also , sheet of glass covering it, doesn't seem bad for reflections etc. My secondary screen is a Dell 24" non non IPS but one of the pro screens from a couple years back.. no contest, LCD tech has made leaps and bounds.. Just bought a hdmi 22" IPS fulll 1080p as a preview for others to see the shot, under $130 looks great !

  • The problem with Dell anti-gloss is that "grain-size" of coating isn't really much bigger than pixel pitch, leading to "small specks of light"-effect.

    Of course, video gamut is what video gamut is. But at least I know I see it all.

    Regarding H-IPS: I became a believer when I compared with other monitors on this specific test:

    http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php

    On most other monitors, letters would be changing color if you move your head vertically. Not so on Dell. It would be interesting if somebody could test these cheap monitors with same test. And also check if they can display "true" framerate and not just pad with extra frames.