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Panasonic S5M2 with Phase Hybrid AF
  • Full Frame Mirrorless Camera With Phase Hybrid AF. This is true for both S5 II and S5 IIx.

    DFD is dead. Thank you.

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  • Sean Robinson of Panasonic talks about the new S5 Mark II, S5 Mark II X and the 12-28mm lens.

  • @IronFilm - Panasonic adressed the GH6 PDAF in todays live stream from CES.

    In short: The GH6 does not have hidden PDAF points on the sensor and you need the whole new package like the L2 (L square) processor to make Phase hybrid AF work.

    And as usual no comment on possible future products.

  • @IronFilm - the camera body does not live a separate life, it's part of a larger lens ecosystem.

  • Budget in price only! Flagship camera in any other measure for an aspiring filmmaker.

  • @IronFilm Despite all the glory the S5M2 is a FF budget camera I presume.

  • Unfortunately the S5 IIX only does 1080 ProRes internal recordings. I hope they add 2K ProRes as well! Because that's a very common resolution with ProRes. And SD cards can handle 2K. (and the SD cards is why it doesn't have 4K ProRes, and records to an external USB drive instead)

    BTW: Some weak rumors about a possible firmware ugrade for the GH6?! Suggesting that the GH6 sensor already have the PDAF points, but not yet implemented. Sounds like a wild idea.

    That is a wild rumor indeed!!!

  • Weak points:

    IPB compression
    60 FPS only with crop
    Slow sensor read out

  • "the engineers in Japan told me that they have been working on phase detect for a long time"

    BTW: Some weak rumors about a possible firmware ugrade for the GH6?! Suggesting that the GH6 sensor already have the PDAF points, but not yet implemented. Sounds like a wild idea.

  • For the french fries...

  • DP Initial review.

    Does the S5 II do enough to be seen as a serious contender to the likes of Canon's EOS R6 II or even Nikon's Z6 II? It helps its case that Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are doing a good job of building a system around the L-mount, meaning there are many more native lenses available than for Canon or Nikon's mirrorless systems.

    Ultimately, though, the S5 II seems likely to succeed or fail based on its AF performance. There's little reason to doubt it'll be a capable video camera, but the effectiveness of its revised AF system will help define how easy it is to shoot with for both stills and video, and in that department it's squaring up against some very capable competition.

    Our first impressions are that the AF tracking in stills mode is stickier than the Nikon Z6 II's but a touch behind its Canon and Sony rivals, whereas for video it's better behaved than all but the Sony.

    A potential pitfall is that one of its key stills features – 30fps Raw capture – exhibits significantly more rolling shutter than its most direct rival. The Canon EOS R6 II can shoot at 40fps with a readout time of ~18ms: around 30% quicker than the roughly 25ms the S5 II takes to close its shutter.

    These are preliminary thoughts; we'll want to check the S5 II with more lenses in more shooting circumstances before drawing firm conclusions. Critically, it'll be a question of how well the stabilization and AF work together in run-and-gun video and stills capture. From our use so far, though, the S5 II appears to be in credibly me in the hunt. On that basis, it represents a big step forward for Panasonic, however you look at it.

    https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-s5-ii-dc-s5-iix-initial-review