I know what people want. I don't know why you think I have resources to create this?

@Vitaliy_Kiselev The complexity of creating a tool comparable in performance you mean, unnecessarily large. Did you know there are thousands of assembler code inside it and tens of thousands of lines of c++ code is used currently. 23 megabytes of pure mathematics archived source code in 7-zip with most ratio compression setting per each component. Hundreds of people worked on this code for several years, including three years of my work including prototyping, testing, finding best ways, research in real world cameras.

Who able to create a similar tool you suggest?

Are you capable of such an adventure, even if your life was provided to old age and it would not matter whether the return you investment? We can use it now these days. It is a reality, not a fantasy or an idea. And it allows make me something that is not possible before.

If advisers can do this way, then do it! Personally, I spent three years of work to make a working product and it really works. It remains the most difficult to explain to people that I have lived these three years not in vain.

PS. chroma upsampling example is planned. A competitor code on doom9 works with 0.1 fps for hd. My code works in realtime in 4K with the same quality.

I physically don't have neither time nor resources to show all tasty things of the program. Instead of investing for twenty years in programming of the program clone (what is necessary to users who like to move a slider), I will spend this time for the proof that nothing more the best for the requested money and simply doesn't exist in the world.

@tonalt

• A lot of technical small details - what details annoy you? Сolleagues who are potential buyers, understand me and understand, in what area I and my product will be useful them.
• bad example pictures - what example picture is bad? what significative is bad?
• you change settings to examples on the fly "oh wait.. ignore that, these settings are better" - give a prove.
• bad marketing - what you mean?
• You are not able to sell your product - what is your commercial interest to someone else's product?
• To sell the product, you need to compare it to competitors. - Why I need it? Also give me a competitor and area where I able to create a comparison. And, please point me the area on the competitor web site about comparison.

@rheinpirat To sell the product, you need to compare it to competitors.

@rean I'm having déjà vu. This is just like windmotion. A lot of technical small details, bad example pictures, you change settings to examples on the fly "oh wait.. ignore that, these settings are better", bad marketing. You are not able to sell your product.

@rean I don't expect denoise/sharpen to improve the content, there isn't much noise left. My query was more about chroma reconstruction, so I could get some grading latitude. Can VA help? Bear in mind it originated in DV and has mutated greatly (always to a better codec though). I'll send you PM with a link on Vimeo. Thank you.

@rheinpirat @rean thank you both for context. @rean since you are a restoration engineer I expect only good things. I even have a specific project in mind, if and when I find the time. I have this short TV film initially shot on PAL DV letterbox, so the raster was only 720x432. I no longer have the source tapes. The final cut has been through denoising+sharpening with NeatVideo, stabilization with Warp Stabilizer (Adobe), 2x upscaling with Image Enhancer (super-resolution software by Infognition), further 1.something upscaling and color correction in Davinci. Davinci correction was on top of a somewhat botched correction in FCP6.

So now I have this vaguely HD (as in "it fills a 1080p frame") master with color hanging on for dear life (breaking into artifacting if I try to push it more). I can't really think of anything worse to throw at VideoArtifact. I would like to push the colors even more. The master is Cineform 10bit, 4th generation (1st PALDV, 2nd Prores SD, 3rd Cineform HD, 4th Cineform HD) The film is still getting views after all these years. It's aging like good wine.

Will VA give it a fighting chance for re-remastering in Davinci? Just asking :)

@radikalfilm I use NeatVideo on a regular basis and I am also a very avid user of VA since the old version (called Windmotion). NeatVideo is a denoiser with sharpen tools, but VA can simply more. De-Halo, dithering, mosquito noise remove etc. It removes stuff NeatVideo simply can't. Mostly I use VA for preparing my footage for heavy grading, even if the source seems to be clean.

@radikalfilm I don't know NeatVideo and have no license, so do not know possible trial limitations. But I know users who were impressed after their compare with NeatVideo using VA old versions (called Windmotion) a 1-2 year ago. Probably they are still here on the forum. Try to find them in a Windmotion forum discussion.

My things as a restoration engineer who work in this area are:

There is not possible to make objective comparable results. VA has different type denoisers, those can be applied differently for color channels. Also masking and noise shaping can be used to mask or remove digital compression artifacts. In these cases I can create a similar per-channel denoise with NeatVideo, for example, in node-like editor (free DaVinci Resolve can do separate YUV, RGB or HSV processing with NeatVideo) and get similar result, or use it together with NeatVideo over multiple stages. So the result is a combination of many filters and restoration technics knowledge. The important difference will be in the processing speed, learning skills and usability.

Also color noise removal is not a reliable test. The eye sees very little difference in the color detail. In the examples there is no small color details, so any good denoiser can give you a good result.

Also applying denoise only is a very specialized test that can show nothing. In VA different denoisers can be used, and it is the correct way to use VA. Probably you would like to test a result for an average user, who do not know special technics and probably will not use advanced features? In this case you can try it yourself with the Basic edition, that has one simple motion-compensate based denoiser but with many parameters for experiments.

About old tape restoration. VA has no specialized filters for related tape artifacts. But you can use many hundreds of AviSynth community filters, if extend it manually. VA mainly is for digital camera quality and source prepare for film.

Some users ask me about improvement examples from quality sensor cameras. So, I have published a hacked GH2 example processing.

A youtube preview is also available, but quality is draft.

The source has only one important issue: color noise. But some other things like sharping or skin tones were improved, too.

@robertGL up to minute is ok with any scene with any camera setting you like to know how good is software.

Because VA does not support sequenced RAW, you can provide a compressed or not compressed debayered files (avi uncompressed, dnxhd, ProRes or something similar). But if you provide tiff or exr, I will convert them manually by FFmpeg or DaVinci (I use free version only, up to 4K). Also this is a source to make a tutorial how to prepare RAW/sequence files for VA. I can read and write up to 16 bit 4:4:4 mov, mkv or avi, FFmpeg-compatible. The RAW-quality improvement is supported, because VA can make denoise, sharp or quality resize. Some lens/sensor artifacts in edge area are probably can be removed.

For compressed sources like AVCHD or H.264 you can provide most quality file only. For example, if camera supports 320x200 and 1920x1080, only 1920x1080 is required, because only a few of users will shot at some strange low quality settings. But if you like to get some record modes, you can include.

Green screen scenes are plus to test edges artifacts.

I have deleted the YouTube video with the moon because found an issue - grain. New version is better. Unfortunately I cannot edit the previous post to change YouTube link.

http://www.videoartifact.com/examples/va-denoise-moon/

PS. Video sources from different cameras wanted. I need in licensed camera files to create more different examples. If you have some files for me, please send your files with this information: a copyright string (who is the author), a camera model. You will get additional 50% discount and your camera template support. Please send legal shots. A permission of models is required, and also visible trademarks and another legal issues should not be in the scene.