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GH4 4K Panasonic video camera, official topic
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  • thebmillzthebmillz

    Does anyone know if the 200mps 1080p mode is available to download anywhere as a sample? I'm curious if my machine can even handle editing it. Or if I need to start future proofing and saving some more money! (RE: 2013 Maxed out Retina 13 inch Macbook Pro)

  • TronTron

    @igorek7 Thanks for clearing up the 4K 4:2:2 HDMI output once and for all, now we just need a new Hyperdeck that can record 4K over HDMI :)

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    As allways there is something odd.

    MICRO HDMI, not mini, not normal. I SUFFER to use this mini HDMI to monitor work, the rig helps but is a shit, a micro HDMI would only make things worst.

    An external micro HDMI to HDMI adapters, like the design (of that part only) from thr YAGH brick should be a must but only the adaptor.

  • igorek7igorek7

    -- The question on a lot of people's minds is, can the GH4's built-in HDMI port record out 4K 4:2:2 10 bit or is the YAGH actually needed for that?

    -- You can output 4K at 4:2:2 10bit to a recorder with the body. You do not need the YAGH. Here's a page from the manual - by Giulio Sciorio image

  • gabiloursongabilourson

    @LongJohnSilver +1

  • amateuramateur

    from a 4k 4:2:2 > 4:4:4

    can't wait to see what gh4 would do.

    macgregor : The 4K mode is quite sharp, it didn't show any aliasing and while only 8bits (too bad) it becomes a 444 signal once resampled to 1080p, which isn't bad right?

  • AdamTAdamT

    I think tautological is the word you're looking for.

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    Nature is natural... isn't that axiomatic.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Peoplr Don't even read previous posts and keep posting the same things again and again...

    Nothing bad with it. Nature is natural.

  • flabloflablo

    @LongJohnSilver too many posts. It's not very handy to read 35 pages and you can't assume everyone who posts something does that

  • LongJohnSilverLongJohnSilver

    Guys what's happened to this forum?

    Peoplr Don't even read previous posts and keep posting the same things again and again...

  • AdamTAdamT

    YAGH won't work on the GH3. It has male contacts on the top for which there are no corresponding female contacts on the bottom of the GH3. It also plugs into the camera's HDMI port which is different on the GH4.

  • thejohnromanthejohnroman

    will the DMW-YAGH (the brick) work on a gh3?

  • karlkarl

    @Sph1nxster: From what can be read, there is no NTSC-specific GH4 version. (And no, there is no EU country using NTSC.)

    But the relevant thing is that NTSC or PAL would not make a difference with regards to the absurd "camcorder tax" that applies if the device can record >= 30min in one go.

  • TronTron

    @DailyFilmFlix Please take further transcoding discussion to a different thread to keep this topic on the GH4, many of us cleared the air on native AVCHD over 3 years ago... I will throw one nugget out there for you, if you want to edit AVCHD on a Mac without transcoding just use Clipwrap and be done with it. http://www.divergentmedia.com/clipwrap

  • chauncychauncy

    In Sweden cyberphoto has body at 14999 kr and box add on at 19999 kr. That's 35k for the twö. That's $5387 or 3916 euros for both. Take away VAT and you're maybe 20% less. They "expect" it in end of April.

  • DailyFilmFixDailyFilmFix

    @DrDave I hear ya about harddrives. With the GH4, I will need to do some number crunching. The camera is a next year purchase for me anyway. My work will be shot with the GH3/G6 combination this year. If anything, I will be putting some more money into lenses.

    The harddrive dilemma doesn't bother me too much. We shot three camera with sync sound (for the most part) on my last feature. It was something like 46 interviews (all pretty long form). Ultimately, 4TB was not really enough (maybe could have fit compressed, but I did not try).

    Now, since this discussion started, I poked around looking for folks that natively edit AVCHD and found most who edit on a Mac just transcoding to ProRes. I have always transcoded even back to my SD tape days when we used either AIC or some HDV variant. It is just second nature to me.

    And can anyone point to examples where transcoding to ProRes made their footage worse? I cut a feature shot on the Red once. We cut it in FCP7 and used the Red plugin to take everything to Pro Res 444. It looked fantastic when projected in the theater (it also played on PBS). I couldn't have edited that film with my equipment any other way.

  • Sph1nxsterSph1nxster

    This may sound like a crazy question, but would there be any countries that use NTSC within the EU? I'm thinking importing NTSC without the heavy tax asscociated normally with it.

  • Sph1nxsterSph1nxster

    @chef that is very interesting. I make that at just over £1230 for UK guys

  • chefchef

    Camerashop pre order for the euros buddies body only at 1499 euros!

    http://www.camerashop.nl/product/432540/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh4-body.html

  • flabloflablo

    @LongJohnSilver I'm torn between what to hate more in this video: the fake GH4 claim or Bevin the bride

  • LongJohnSilverLongJohnSilver

    Another fake? No download available...

    Panasonic GH4 Shooting in 4K with Bevin and Josh at the Park Plaza Hotel in Downtown Los Angeles

  • LongJohnSilverLongJohnSilver

    Given that the H.264 thing continues...

    [flame on] Always edited AVCHD files natively on EDIUS since the beginning on normal computers. On a moderate fast PC I can have four AvCHD tracks and several effects in realtime.

    A lot of people believe that out there exists only FCP or Premiere. If something cannot be done inside them then it's impossible. Bah! [Flame off]

  • LongJohnSilverLongJohnSilver

    And I also discovered that Giulio Sciorio has t-shirt with "Giulio Sciorio" written on it

    @flablo nothing strange.

    Even @Vitaliy_kiselev has a T-shirt with "Vitaliy Kiselev" written on it and he wears it every time he write here. With great power, comes great responsibility.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    H.265 will need a lot more horsepower to play with natively due to its more complex algorithm. More money, more headaches.

    Nothing bad with H.265 on playback. Most difference is in encoding. And yep, GPU support will be available in quite short time.

    In fact, big difference even in H.264 exist, as good two pass software encoder is much better to Gh3 one, for example.

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