@Markr041, Mark, are you sure the OIS is working on the 14-140? I use this lens for 99% of all my videos at 100mm+ most of the time so I'm very familiar with this lens, and it's not displaying any characteristics of the OIS on that lens. There is no " locking-on" visible in any of the the clips and I've never seen micro shakes like that on any footage I've shot with this lens between 100 and 140mm.
Have you done a test with OIS on and Off? ( switch on the Lens body)
@markr041, overheard at 1:38: "This guy's takin' a picture of your chicken." Made me laugh.
I shot a test video to see how well the BMPCC does as a run and gun camera, shooting raw:
The first-generation compressed MP4, 108030p H264, HP 35Mbps video can be downloaded.
This video consists of many shots I would not take with the EOS M or GH3 (my current video cameras) or any other camera - shots that are strongly backlit or that have both bright sunlight and shade at the same time. It is a test video, for the kind of shooting I like to do.
The OIS on the lens (Panasonic 14-140mm) does not do well at the telephoto end. There is more shakiness in this video than I would like, and that I normally experience with Canon IS lenses (on Canon cameras). But it is working.
You can get color! I like color.
The in-camera audio is at least as good as the EOS M or the GH3, which is very good. There is a real sound track that adds ambience and thus realism, and even some music.
Auto focus is fine. No problems at all.
No moire or aliasing in these shots.
More resolution and no visible sharpening artifacts compared with the Canon EOS M, GH3 or any other camera I have used for video (not better than the TM900 camcorder). I used the default sharpening in Lightroom, which is light.
One can shoot run and gun, with in fact little attention to wb and exposure that you normally would have to fuss over in the field, but you need a lot of leisure time and patience later.
@kholi Interesting point you made that image tends to look better when projected but many think that it looks worse when projected. I'm curious what you meant? (Is it because with a bigger screen, the image isn't as sharp and therefore looks more "filmic" and less like "harsh video", or some other reason?). Thanks.
Here is a BMPCC video made from RAW that tests the internal audio capability of the camera - in-camera mics. All percussion instruments in the scenes, which are perfect for assessing synchronization. Lightroom was used to make tiffs, and the audio and tiffs were merged in Vegas Pro:
The synchronization is perfect; the dynamic range of the audio is excellent.
@vapourtrail here it is without the top handle or rail mount for $225
@vicharris @kholi Thanks guys, footage or no, I trust your opinions on this matter!
@vicharris - I misread. The complaint is the camera performs an auto iris function before you can adjust the iris manually
Hello, this is a test I did using the BMPCC with a Nokton 17.5 for a night shot, graded using Resolve and trying to apply a Premiere Workflow, thanks for watching and enjoy!
My first and probably last raw vid for now!
@vapourtrail Wow, that's actually pretty nice looking and very functional. Very good design.
The tilta bmpc cage finally popped up on ebay. ~$370US shipped. Looks good. I like that the riser has a quick release on it. Ordered. I'll offer my thoughts when it arrives.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261332902833
Sorry if that's a link for mobile devices. On my phone.
Yeah, I just checked all of my SSDs and the one that I taped off was the Mosaic AA filter vs Non Filtered test SSD. =T Sorry about that, Vic.
I actually realized though that it should be a test done with a chart etc., because there were so many things moving in and out of frame it became kind of pointless. It did, however, confirm my move to the ProNDs, if my own testing wasn't enough and then shooting with the set this past weekend.
Tiffen isn't bad, they did however render my SLR magic glass useless (SLR Magic's already green, stack the tiffen's on, things get really bad before the image gets recorded), and the inconsistencies between densities drove me bat.
Hoyas are so close that I can't even tell which ND I'm using sometimes, outside of the stop.
When the entire set is finally available to purchase, it'll be what I recommend... not just for this camera.
@mrbill doesn't seem that way with my active m43 lenses. I can control aperture manually no problem. I believe he says the camera defaults to auto at start up and then you push be up or down buttons (to change iris) and then you're in manual mode. Pressing the focus button puts the camera in auto again.
@vicharris wow, that's very interesting to hear that you're having such hugely different results with the Tiffens than what that video shows. There is definitely a color shift with my T1, but not a really strong green, more of a slight yellow, which I haven't had any problems getting rid of (yet). I do have a soft spot for Hoya, always have, maybe I should look into them. You're having good success with them?
@apefos it works on gh3 with non elecronic lenses for all the time, even at non contrast scenes. But on panasonic lenses it works only at contrast scenes and only at aperture set higher than f2.0
Latest review from Mr A Reid suggests you can't turn auto-iris off on any active panasonic m4/3 lenses - true or false?
I don't know what Able did in that test but I'm starting to think it was fake. I went through three of the Tiffen IRND 2.1s and none of them worked. Then I finally got ahold of Tiffen and they confirmed non of their 2.1 IRNDs work on Black Magic Cameras. I asked them if they knew about the Able test and they didn't. Also I messaged Able twice about that test and never got a response so I wouldn't say that test is the end all be all. Plus everyone of my Tiffen IRs has a strong green shift, STRONG! I'm switching to the Hoyas and calling it a day.
@DanHarris I wish I could help more with vari ND and IR cut, I use a Tiffen IR T1, but almost never use a vari ND (just walk around/run and gun) so I haven't done a lot of testing with that combo yet.
I usually prefer to have a matte box with 4x4 Lee and Schneider NDs and so far I'm liking the results with the IR T1 behind them, but I haven't pushed it as far as they did in the AbleCine video above.
@_gl @matt_gh2 @majoraxis Thanks for the kind words guys. I've been exposing with zebras set at 95% and it seems it's nearly impossible to screw things up this way and ETTR keeps the files essentially noise free. The raw image this camera produces certainly gives one confidence that they can take on more ambitious projects, maybe even a feature of some kind down the road!
My experience shooting a video with the BMPCC using RAW is provided here:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1500163/taking-raw-video-using-the-black-magic-pocket-camera
Many of the reviews I have seen, because of the newness of RAW, are actually a bit misleading about the camera for RAW mode shooting.
@lmackreath One thing you can do is grade in lightroom for the first frame of the sequence then use after effects and import the dng sequence and use that preset in camera raw upon import to apply to the rest of the frames (or just save the .xmp if it is compatible with your version of camera raw). Export in Prores HQ if you're on a Mac. Should be a simpler and cleaner workflow and yes, you will see higher quality over the in-camera ProRes.
@theconformist The file size is relative to the 176Mbps rate, so a little smaller than ProRes 220. I use it because I'm on a PC, editing in Sony Vegas and cannot export ProRes files.
yep watched that @jumo it was not entirely conclusive with Vari ND combo. Best combo seems to be IR+variND+hot mirror. problem is my pricey Singh ray is a slim version, no front thread... so might have to at some point replace entire system. Gracias.
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