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GH3 Best Video Settings
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  • @maddog15 thank you but that's from Ned Espeut-Nickless, je je. I wonder if his "0" is for NR or colour though... 'cause if colour those are exactly the ones I use too. I invited him here, FRisksuuuss

  • @maxr Very nice. How much post grading or CC did you have to do? (If any.)

  • natural setting with everything turned down to -5, -5, -5, 0. So as flat as the GH3 goes, also didnt crush the blacks or blow out the whites so keep alot of detail.
    was using the SLR magic 25mm f0.95 and the Lumix 12-35mm 2.8 IS
    No post stabilization used just Image stabilizer on the lens and conforming 50p to 25p for slow motion helps smooth out camera shake
  • @maddog15 the reference monitor in premiere usualy shows Red higher than G and B in artificial light, red is also something I try to keep in white balance because I prefer warmer image but unfortunately I dont have any other dslr to check if gh3 really records more red than others, it would be a nice test but I'll try what you said about shooting in Blues and fix in post, it's intresting

  • @starios Hands down, that take/test is definitely usable! (In my humble opinion) Good tonal range when you first strike, flesh looks like flesh. Even with YouTube compression 1080 appears to be clean, not too noisy. That's my two cents for what it's worth:)

  • @maxr Thanks also for the vid link. Beautiful skin. Proof that it's possible... therefore I'm battling the ever painful user error factor X^D

  • @maxr Thanks for the reply and info. Man it is a fine line battle. If you'd be so kind, go back to page 5 on this post to the grading video I posted. look at the close up plant shot at 26 seconds. Absolutely incredible before and after shot in my opinion. Saturation is rich (greens and dark purples in the out of focus water top right), tonal range is good, no exaggerated noise or artifacting after luminance adjustment. Had I not had everything at -5 the little white flowers would have been absolutely blown out, whites crushed and dynamic range lost. Even the in camera noise reduction would have "smoothed out" precious detail and information in those whites.

    As @starios has battled - it's the damn skin. So I ask myself, "So what's the big difference in the plant close up shot at 26 seconds and skin tones in "driving vid"? Shots that are primarily greens or blues do quite well in my opinion. BUT that singles out Red. (This may be old news to some but I'm just reiterating) I remember a post by Drew from DREWnet claiming, "New important findings". He stated that, at least on the GH2, the red channel was a problem in many ways. Noise especially. So... He set the white balance to the "indoor light bulb" setting for all his shots. Which means REALLY blue. I tried it in a sunny outdoor shot. It was "way too blue" of course BUT the shot was much cleaner, smoother less noise! Reduced the blue in post to balance the color.

    I'm also not convinced that setting all on -5 is the end-all answer.... especially with skin tones. As I learn this cameras strengths and weaknesses, like anything else, I'll just shoot accordingly. AVCHD vs MOV is a consideration but man that's half the bit rate! Same AVCHD bit rate as the stock firmware of the GH2 on HBR mode which in my opinion was just... "ok".... but not Wow.

  • @maddog15 you are right, the lens creates ca and several other issues, flare, no contrast, not crystal clear, because its old, generally it helps because in use with etc it becomes 30-180mm f/1.2≃1.6 at 190 euros (with adapter) :P and its not for trash. I think next video is better concerning the noise and ca.I fixed ca as much as I could with "change to color" filter. Iso 800, f/1.2, ss 25, wb 3000, matches and one led light.

  • @maddog15 I'm not convinced all -5, in my tests I see too much information being lost in color, maybe if it recorded 422; your grades look good though ;-) AVCHD is less noisier and to me seems standard is less noisier too and natural + DR. Noise is another big field to study, je je, I almost always use extra noise and grain and being more lazy than paranoid about it I'm trying to find optimized marriage... with some weekend lovers of course.

    This guy at vimeo uses

    -4 -3 -3 0 I used this custom setting based on Standard then graded in Adobe Speedgrade. The original was shot Lumix GH3 in entirety with Leica 25mm f1.4, Lumix 7-14mm f4, Nikkor AIS 55mm Makro f2.8 in broad daylight, very harsh conditions. Tabitha is diffused with an 8 foot overhead silk but everything else is hot daylight.

  • the directors in scenes with candles or matches keep high contrasts in light and dark and try to avoid this state between I'm talking about, I may be wrong but I think I can see it even in old black and white movies in general shots not only canldes. We can always use 50.000 watt in lights like most directors do for a night image in a cemetery shot :P

  • the fckng midtones are the problem, I watch my stupid video and even before edit, the light of the lighter is enough for a clear image in f/1.2 iso 1600, the very low light tending to be black is also ok, the state between those two is the thriller

  • 72Mb/s All Intra. Still can't get the skin tones right. I need to "let go" of the All Intra setting I know.

  • @starios Very cool....and spooky! Looks like you're getting some CA around the bright edge of the flame? Is is just the YouTube compression? Can't tell for sure but I'm surprised and thrilled the GH3 delivers that kind of exposure with the f1.4.

  • @maddog15 very very nice!

  • As I promised, after trying to solve the infinity focus problem with my c-mount lens, I finally stuck with epoxy glue the c-mount screw removing completely the rear flange of the lense and here is my first noisy sample at f/1.2 By mistake I shot it in 72alli, damn, more noise.

  • @maddog15 really nice test and very nice place to go to. :-)

    I will try to explain myself because I'm Portuguese living in Mexico writing in English LOL.

    My personal impression is that all -5 gives a slightly grey feeling to some colours, and in highlights you loose some naturality in brightness information that is not easy to recover latter in post.

    If it would be possible, try to do the same test but leave it all at -2 or -3 and you will notice this. Grade it more subtle and you will find that colours are more rich, and highlights more vivid I'm not talking about contrast its different. And as for skin tones or red pink and related colours in screen is much more noticeable.

    BUT hey is like talking about beauty every person has it's sensitivity, in colour and photography style are absolutely personal and each video project as it's own character.

    @starios yes I see that too.

  • @griplimited. Thanks. Sorry there was a typo in the title. All were shot in MOV 50Mb/s IPB mode. (Not 30Mb/s)

  • Looks real good @maddog15

    Was this AVCHD or MOV mode?

  • I'm amazed at the amount of information available when grading footage with an all flat setting. Some shots are better than others but grading the 50Mb/s footage seems more forgiving than 72Mb/s All Intra. The "Before" of each is straight out of the camera. (All shot on Standard -5 -5 -5 -5.) Then CC/grading applied in Premiere Pro CS6.

  • @jonpais I use neat video 2.6 in premiere cs6, it is the best noise reduction for me but needs 15-20 times the length of the video to export in 4 cores 3.2ghz, unfortunately it doesn't work faster with 8 cores or gpu even the version 3.0 i tried in after effects. @leonbeas I used to believe iso 1600 is the maximum useful for gh3 but from some tests of mine and samples from other users I believe now that everything is relative to the lens, the light, the dark areas. I've seen some sample videos with the g-vario 20mm f/1.7 or voigtlander and the 6400 looks completely different from my 6400 :)

  • @starios thanks for the feedback.

    I just got to see some simple footaje on an 1080p tv and, WOW amazed really this camera is the best for this price range I did the right choice. ;-)

    With enough light it rocks, you can use it without perceptible noise to iso 800, and very usable footage to 3200, past that is just for emergencies...

    Join the GH3 with fast good lenses and you can really be close to + 8000dll camera. BlackMagic as its pros and cons, but lacks GH3 versatility. (don't need to specify).

    And as for settings I found myself using natural for low light, and standard for good light situations. Why because colour temp. white balance, for me natural respond better to high ISO it keep more subtle colours (not scientific just appreciative opinion). Maybe because is less saturated and high ISO tend to make more noise in colour channels, ;-)

    as for numbers I don't go (yet) with -5 think that it looses precious image information, like skintones, highlights, and too much noise (so much better then canon DSLRs though).

    I do miss precise RGB colour correction, if possible that would be amazing in a hack. There is some magenta and yellows tendency most of the time that would be nice to correct in camera.

    Greetings

  • @Starios Do you use some noise reduction software when editing your footage shot at -5 NR? If so, any recommendations?

  • mov is a little-little bit noisier than avchd. 50 mbps is better than alli till now, and as philip bloom says, he prefers generally manual focus, ok gh3 is very good in auto focus but it has to hunt a bit when changes focus, in low light it hunts a lot but I dont care, I use only manual

  • @leonbeas for me the best settings are natural or standard (almost the same) saturation for sure -2 or -3 if the light is enough because saturation in 0 is fake color, it is oversaturaded and believe me if you put 20-30% saturation in post when shoot in -2 -3 you have better color than shooting in 0, I have two examples uploaded in this forum that show in-camera contrast is noisier if you want to push the midtones, means less dynamic range, but for quick shots and quick edits you can use incamera contrast, at least it is not fake. Noise reduction is blury and cannot save your footage in bad lightning conditions so I keep it in -5. Sharpen -5 for real pixels

  • thaks for the feedback @maddog15