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Official Panasonic GH3 topic
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  • I hope Gh3 is made-in-Japan.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev frankly I don't expect anything from Canon anymore, even from a Nikon user that has bought a 7d for video. Sincerely without any fanboyism, I would not like to be a cannon user nowadays. There photo have been more of a rehash of their older 5d2 technology with a better jpeg engine. On the video side the barely if not lower rez 720p video and I am not even talking about uncompressed hdmi output.

  • @derek Just saying Panasonic will have a tough time convincing the Best Buy crowd walking into a Best Buy or camera store from ever seeing the GH camera line to begin with when they can get a Sony SLT for HALF the money ($598 body, $698 with kit lens), with similar specs in MP and frame rate.

    Consider the summary from DPReview today: "Just Posted: Our review of the Sony Alpha SLT-A57. The A57 replaces the A55 which co-launched Sony's translucent fixed-mirror SLT lineup. While the A57 retains the same 16MP resolution of its predecessor, it inherits an impressive host of features from more recent NEX and SLT models. A 10fps full resolution burst mode, manual focus 'peaking' and class-leading 1080p60 video headline the specs of a beginner-friendly DSLR that, on paper, stacks up very well against the competition. At a street price of $700 with kit lens, is the A57 a compelling alternative for users looking for an affordable and versatile DSLR? Read our in-depth review to find out."

    I would love for Panasonic to make major inroads into the mass market in the US, but I don't think this camera will do it, based on these specs in a tough DSLR market and tougher economy. I am hoping they release more bodies soon with MAJOR differentiating features at the price point, so they can gain market share in the US.

  • @HillTop1 Yeah, fortunately, I've been able to generate enough business to pay off the costs of all that gear, although I'm selling my D7000 and Olympus PEN to be able to afford the BMCC. While the AF100 is an inferior camera in terms of IQ, it's just good enough for a lot of interviews for web sites.

    I'm really conflicted about the GH3 -- I like what I've heard so far, but the GH2 is so awesome with the patches that I can't really justify replacing it yet. I don't need the XLR, weatherproofing or some of the other features when my AF100 or D800 can handle those needs.

  • @danyyyel

    Don't be afraid. Canon 6D is just another FF camera in the long list. Nothing extra fancy.

  • Another clue to those that the gh3 live in some vacuum market, I am prepared to bet to see which camera from the gh3 or the Canon 6d will have more coverage tomorrow in the press, blogs and forum.

    My felling about the strange leaked gh3 video and the Philip Bloom short movie has to do with the 6d announcement suppose to be on the same date. I think that Pana was afraid that this launch would overshadow the gh3 one. With the 6d and Olympus announcement tomorrow and last week Sony and Nikon. The best was to leak/announce the camera unofficially during this week-end.

  • lol @ahbleza if you have money for an AF100, GH2, D800 and a BMCC, i'm sure an extra $1300 shouldn't break your bank.

  • Is there any indication that the GH3 retains the Ex-Tele function? I can't find any thing regarding this so far. If they have deleted it...well that's just plain stupid.

  • @azza_act Yes I have been doing just that for the last 7 years, from my Nikon d70 to my new D800. I calculated it to about $ 15 000 between multiple flashes, lens and accessories during those years with prices about 25-30% more in my country. more so that the average salary in my country is like 25% that of the USA. So i would hope that Panasonic also continue to get my money. Or perhaps they don't care about customers like me and prefer the fanboy type.

  • @TommiH I think that my views are from someone who is looking at the dslr/hybrid as a whole and just not gh2 users that already know about the gh line. I won't go as far as fanboyism but many times its like this also in the gh2 community. What I mean is that I want the gh line to succeed but not looking through rose tinted glass. The reality is that unless you are really into dslr level filmmakers, people barely know this camera. How many time have I tried to persuade people to buy gh2 compared to a Canon camera and fail even if it was cheaper or about equal to the model they wanted. Now tell me how those gh3 are suppose to sell against $ 300 to $ 600 cheaper canon t2i or Nikon D7000.

    Now some in there ivory tower will say, let those fool go to hell. When someday they will be alone then they will see how much money Pana will dedicate to there beloved camera model. I seen many clearly superior technology fail even with dedicated user group like the Amiga computer, how many years did people wait for the Fuji S3, the high dynamic range camera with nikon mount!!!!!!!!

  • @rigs About the 686Meg MP4 file...I think Philip said its the original uncompressed file from memory.

    Anyway its 23.976 FPS, 19.8 Mbps, its 4.2.0 chroma subsampling and its 8 bit.

    It looks good, and much better than the previous 1080P version, I would not call it stunning (the quality I mean), but obviously the camera is capable of a lot more. Possibly the higher bitrate was not available on the version of the Camera that they used to do this clip.

    So it will be interesting to see what the 72Mbps ALL-I frame quality is like and what the chroma subsampling is.

  • @svart It looks to me like the effect is synced to the fan rotation, i.e., like some light is being reflected or blocked by the fan blades. The shadow to the left of the TV stand is where this seems most noticeable; it darkens and then lightens as each fan blade swings past. Then there are a couple of possibilities for why the tint might change: one is that there are different color light sources (either because of source temp or because of what the light has reflected from) and the relative balance is being changed by the fan. The other is that the luminance alone is changing and that the grading or picture style is introducing a "hue twist", similar to many Adobe camera profiles. Anyway it's not obvious to me that it's a codec issue.

  • Can anyone tell us what is the MP4 Mbps of Blooms download from Vimeo

  • @svart--first thing I thought when seeing the vid was the icky pulsing junk in certain areas. Let's hope it can be done away with, but I have a sinking feeling.

    The other thing is of course the sensor. I mean, when you shoot vid with an Olly, it just letterboxes. The GH2 gives you the real deal. So if they chopped those extra pixels off, well, Oy. Plus for stills I like my wide lenses to have the option of being wider just by changing the sensor size. It's like having a wide angle adapter built-in, and makes a huge difference on the 20mm and 14mm primes.

  • @svart, I think Philip Bloom said something like "It was an early pre-production camera, so much of it I wasn’t able to try out..." Let's wait and see what the actual camera feel like less than 12 hours from now and hear more analysis from Philip Bloom him self.

  • Looks like the GH3 jello effect is about the same as the GH2. It is not an issue for most people but might be for some.

    GH3 Jello Affect attached picture. The edge of the train should not be slanted.

    GH2 Rolling Shutter Effect

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  • @RRRR

    Yes they are from the original file. I've seen this same thing all over GH2 footage. I've done the same thing myself, even at mid ISO. The easiest way to produce it is have a large area of smooth color and then underexpose slightly in that area. Overall exposure is not important, neither is shutter speed.

  • The 1080p download of the re-uploaded version looks STUNNING, overall.

  • @svart

    Those screengrabs (I assume they were taken from Bloom´s original upload file?) makes me think that shot was shot with a fast frame rate. It looks almost like upscaled 720p footage from the gh2. The following shots from the same scene are far more detailed. However, there is noise there, too. The noise / darkness in the end scene seems like it could be bumped up iso + fast shutter speed in what seems to be a very well lit situation. (if watching the behind the scenes shots from bloom)

  • @oscillian

    It's good news. The GH2 was made for people with little hands.

  • @oscillian,

    It's slightly wider than my D7000 but shorter(D7000 5.2 inches wide, 4.1 inches tall) (GH3 5.3 inches wide, 3.68 inches tall)

  • For anyone interested in size comparizon... looks beefy!

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  • @danyyyel just buy a Nikon camera dude and be done with it....

  • Interesting. I downloaded "Genesis" and I see the same pulsing tints in the noise of underexposed frames as I see in the GH2. I don't think they fixed the codec problems.. Look at the tint of the carpet and dark areas around the bed. 3rd picture shows the area side by side and clearly shows the problem.

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