Panasonic G7 topic, 4K castrate monster or GH4 for poor

MikeLinn

Manu4Vendetta

alvaro

Hi! I did a quick test this morning with the cinelike-d picture style, with all parameter set to -5, in order to test filmconvert with the gh4 profile. I have worked with the GH4 in two videoclips that I haven´t finished yet, and I can say that the image quality in 4k is the same, if not better, because I think the G7 have less noise in the shadows than the GH4.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

DpReview now want to do same as EISA did years ago (I mean - invent tons of categories and make top of winners).

The G7 disguises itself as just another entry/mid-level ILC but, more so than almost any of its rivals, it's as much a video camera as it is a stills camera. Above and beyond the specifications, it's the well-implemented touchscreen interface and relatively high bitrate video capture that make the G7 such a nice camera to shoot video with. The Micro Four Thirds lens mount means that the G7 can be used with a wide variety of lenses, including cine lenses via adaptor, or provide excellent image quality with the system's own lenses.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9206637562/dpreview-products-of-the-year?slide=9

Manu4Vendetta

@Brother, very good.

I have found this.

Brother

G7 with Olympus 25/1.8 and Panasonic 12-35

IronFilm

Very sad they limited HDMI out like they did with the G6 :-/

Manu4Vendetta

Roedie

Has anybody of you any experience with the Metabones Speedbooster XL on the G7? Looks very promising.

johnplanetz

I now have the USA Panasonic G7, and can confirm that in AVCHD, 24p and a 64gb card, the maximum recording time is shown as just under 6 hours. MP4 is limited <30 minutes.

Furthermore, with a fresh Panasonic battery, I was able to record AVCHD continuously for 3 hours and 36 minutes before the camera beeped and shut itself down. This was with a Canon FD 50mm 1.4 lens (cheap Fotasy adapter), manual focus, Cinelike D, 24p, 25 shutter, iso 1600, with the display turned off.

With an aftermarket battery (ChiliPower DMW-BLC12 from Amazon), I got 2 hours and 47 minutes with the same settings.

In both cases, the camera properly shutdown and the end of the recording turned out fine.

This camera is a champ for long video shoots!

Manu4Vendetta

Very nice.

Scot

@bjarne The App is definitely a solution for Jib work though an option to view full screen would be nice it is workable. I was concerned with delay but that does not appear to be to much of an issue. Side benefit of camera control so maybe just buy a bigger tablet.

It looks like an external recorder works as well when not recording to sdcard so an expensive work around. Anyone know what type of signal is sent out the HDMI is it 8 bit or 10 bit etc. ?

bjarne

@scot I think you might consider using WIFI to follow the drone live. the G7 has a fine way to be controlled remote via your phone (either android or iphone). The distance might be a problem though.

Scot

Well no one replied that being said I have answers to share. HDMI will not work for anything but playback same goes for the AV out. This is a real disappointment the G7 being so light it was a natural to fly. With no way to view what the camera sees it severely limits the cameras utility (A feature I get on a $60.00 action cam). As to the Android Image App the delay is not to bad so I'd consider it usable for Jib work but it only gives you a half screen view so not great. If anybody from Panasonic is listening please reconsider your decision on this. I'd go so far as to say charge me like vlog for GH4 if you have too but give me unlimited recording as well and as long as I'm dreaming Anamorphic video settings. There will still be many features to compel people with bigger budgets to get the GH4 no reason to cut so deeply in the G7 feature set.

Scot

Well after a lot of searching it seems it does not support the HDMI during recording. That really sucks and seems senseless crippling. It still leaves my other questions does AV out work during recording and/or does the WiFi App work or does it have to much delay?

Scot

Is it true that the hdmi does not work when recording? Don't want to use a recorder but want to use a external monitor with Jib or copter. If so is the wifi function workable solution to a tablet or to much delay? Or is there a lower resolution AV out?

Ezzelin

@jirab I was using a 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Pro, but that shouldn't matter. I'm not sure why the cameras sold here do not have the time limitation, as I never got a clear answer myself. They are international models, so maybe that makes a difference? In any case, the camera works fine, and there isn't a 30 minute limit. Sorry I don't have any more information!

Manu4Vendetta

The performance in still to ISO 8,000 is very good, and very acceptable between 16,000 and 20,000in this test, ok, isnt a A7S, but the shots are made with lens not very fast f3.5-5.6, I like see if keep that efficiency in video recording in low light conditions.

http://photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/panasonic-lumix-g7-review/

Manu4Vendetta

Panasonic selling V-LOG versions for G7 and GX8 in 3, 2, 1... or not, wait.

jirab

@ezzelin What size/class card were you using to get it to record past 30min? We just bought one off of B&H and it stopped at 29:59 on 4k/mp4. Not sure if the card matters.

OR Is it really just the G7's bought here like @Johnplanetz said, "Vitaliy_Kiselev has said that the G7 offered on PV deals can record long videos: "NTSC bodies are unlimited (including 4K and all).

Are these G7's on PV hacked, or were these pre-release (early firmware) units, or has the spec changed, or what?

Looking for a clear answer! Thanks in advance. Someone please explain :)"

@Vitaliy_Kiselev

Ezzelin · 2015-09-02 01.09.12.jpg

So I bought a G7 camera from here, and I can confirm that I was able to record 4K mp4 video past 30 minutes. I've attached a photo showing a recording in progress past 30 minutes. I'm still not sure how or why this works, but I'm happy about it.