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'Apocalypse Now' Experimental Series 1 Thread - BOOM, Intravenus - cbrandin/driftwood AN Soft/Cinema
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  • driftwooddriftwood

    Boom! using Etc Mode on a Voigtlander 25mm. Low res screen grabs - jpg v png.

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  • BonzaiBonzai

    @Nameless Great work and an excellent example of what the GH2 is capable of (in the right hands). Watched the 'making of video' and then the release. Really kewl to see how it comes together. Thanks!

  • MartinDMartinD

    GH3 Has Arrived

    Panasonic's web site and the GH3 descriptor ...click here

    B&H photo video list price for GH3 body is $1300 ...click here

    A short using the pre-production GH3 with Philip Bloom, Bruce Logan and others ...as well as a behind the scenes short: http://philipbloom.net/2012/09/15/genesis/

    Engadget article on the GH3 ...click here

    Gizmodo article on the GH3 ...click here

    The folks at Zacuto review the Panasonic GH3 ...and as you would guess advertise their stuff:

  • NamelessNameless

    @matt_gh2 Thank you very much for those really kind words. It is really appreciated. The fact it reminds you of Madonna's early stuff really brings a smile to the face.

    The settings i used are exactly as you mentioned "smooth, all -2,etc".

    In regards to the young lady...STEP IN LINE lol....

    Only kidding. She is a fantastic talent and if you get a moment check out some of her music: http://cherrivoncelle.bandcamp.com/

  • matt_gh2matt_gh2

    @Nameless That music video is great. Well done. Beautifully shot. You should be proud - great stuff really. What settings were you using (smooth, all -2,etc)? That's a good looking lady you were working with on this video - any chance you can sort out a proper introduction for me?! You know - just one personal-view.com guy doing a favor for another personal-view.com guy. Great work - really reminded me of some early Madonna stuff from the 80's.

  • NamelessNameless

    @botha Much appreciated...@driftwood makes my job easier, thank him lol

  • bothabotha

    @Nameless: lovely ! wonderfull footage

  • SangyeSangye

    @driftwood just wanted to echo what @Mirrorkisser said, about a good all-around intra setting with the soft matrix. I foresee that being my new hack of choice. So excited - thanks for your hard work! Also, kudos on giving credit to @LPowell and others, where credit is due.

  • NamelessNameless

    @Driftwood you could not have said it any better than that! I shot this Music video using both "Boom" and "Nebula GOP6"

    I must say both myself and the client were blown away by what you have created with your continuous tireless efforts turning a relatively unknown camera into a serious piece of kit.

    I cant thank you and this community enough, and I hope this example reiterates my position.

  • MirrorkisserMirrorkisser

    @thepalalias: really? sorry, i cant remember where i asked that same question, but thx anyway m8! I cracked the 30 recently and maybe all those hectolitres of beer have left their damage unnoticedly. I will experiment with sedna for now. (edit: now i know what you mean. i was not checkin that forum anymore today :-) cheers)

    @driftwood: cheers for the info! will intravenus be rather experimental or allround? a good allround intra with soft matrix would be the bomb! I am trying sedna q20 c right now...

  • driftwooddriftwood

    The experimental settings of Boom! push chroma and luma values in the matrix to the limit. All flat 4s. Now the Gh2 certainly wasnt built for this kind if mattix and under Intra too. Its pushing 8 bit 4:2:0 to the limit but believe me, under the right conditions for closeup facials - in tight shots with bokeh backgrounds youll retain the highest quality macroblock quantisation of between 16 to 20. Its not too bad with wider shots / more detailed shots but the range will go up from 16 to 30 plus which is possibly going to give you artefacts.

    My basic rule of thumb is if youre going to use the flat 4s setting of Boom! be prepared, do some test recordings, check the datarate is below 140mbps for the scene and you should be good to go. You will get terrific looking images and superior looking movement. Ive done the checks. Believe.

    If you want great all round settings try any of the Intra /Sedna/mysteron settings of the past or Pictoris/smbu v2 for lower bitrate Intra (on a par with AVC Intra 50/100). There will be Intravenus 444 Soft and Sharp versions up soon.

    Then there's Cluster - Nebula GOP6 or DREWnet (classic Long GOP 12 PAL / 15 NTSC) in any of the following versions - v5, 6 or 7. There will be Boom! Variations of Cluster soon.

    Now I release settings that I think are worthwhile releasing. As developments take place and ptools get refined there has been good reason to play with and release new settings. Im a firm believer in sharing my work, bkmwcd does too. So despite the confusion of many settings there has been a natural development process and settings developed for different scenarios will get released.

    Some people stick to one setting and that is fine and if there is a version update thats fine too. Thats there way of working and Im not going to knock it.

    Other great settings include bkmwcd's 3GOP, LPowell's 3GOP or RalphB's Sanity.

    The Gh2 limits are pretty much known now.

    We now look forward to the new with the GH3 and other lumix cameras.

    My analysis of the H264 profiles and possibilities for future ptools with the GH3 will appear soon.

    Best,

    Nick in Chile still!

  • thepalaliasthepalalias

    @MirrorKisser I already answered your question when you posed it in another forum, but I will mention one point from it here so that others thinking it can see. :)

    Driftwood already made low-bitrate Intra settings with matrices where it made more sense. They do not make much sense with the new matrices - in fact it would have been great if we could have even higher bitrates, but so it goes. :)

    Anyway, Driftwoods previous GOP1 efforts with much lower bitrates go as far back as SMBU v1, which was released last year. There were several other settings released earlier this year that also had lower bitrates for Intra (if memory serves, that would be the 4 Pictoris options and Rocket) that are also worth checking out.

    Personally, I do not believe it would be an efficient use of time to try to provide new GOP1 settings at those bitrates as it draws attention away from testing and refining the high detail settings at the bitrates were closer to what might be intended for them. If you want lower bitrates, either use a low GOp (as opposed to GOP1) or a long GOP setting or use the older GOP1 settings already mentioned.

  • MirrorkisserMirrorkisser

    just tried sedna for the first time, really nice setting. really waiting for cinema smooth and intra venus. hopefully there is some useful info that can be transfered from the gh3 codec to a gh2 setting!

  • rajamalikrajamalik

    33 pages!

  • MariellaMariella

    @roscaete: Be patient :)) I think "IntraVenus" is on the way!

  • roscaeteroscaete

    When will "IntraVenus"? Thank you for an amazing job.

  • jupiter1jupiter1

    cannot wait to try this in a couple of days..

  • MirrorkisserMirrorkisser

    @flablo: nice footage, looks good in every way :-)

  • killagramkillagram

    @driftwood was that a screenshot taken from Lawrence of Arabia?! The desert looks hardcore!

    Anyways the "Apocalypse Now" Sharp Ver.2 is nothing short of extraordinary when coupled with my Voightlander 35mm/1.4 @640iso. I've never seen dynamic range and filmic grain like that from my GH2 ever!! Granted the settings probably don't do much for DR but I'm blown away by the results.

    Thank you so much for your tireless efforts, it's more then paid off for many users on this site including myself.

  • MirrorkisserMirrorkisser

    @driftwood: regarding the new codec for the gh3, which offers intra at really low bitrates, do you think something similar is possible for the gh2?

  • flabloflablo

    AN Boom! 24p. Only problem experienced: couldn't playback one clip in camera. SanDIsk Extreme Pro 95 Mbps

    Slight banding on skin tones on some scenes is my fault, not AN. Pushed it a bit too hard ..

  • lickmyballlickmyball

    I updated patch with the Apocalypse the DreWnetwork Sharp, with class 10 SanDisk Extreme 16G SD card, the result when shoot in 720p "H" was seeing warning message on my GH2 "Motion recording was cancelled due to the limitation of the writing speed of the card" ...... why? I was able to shoot @ 1080p

  • MbhuyKoMbhuyKo

    @driftwood @bkmcwd @cbrandin can use this setting with Transcend SDHC card class10 UHS-1 85mbps ???

  • StrayStray

    @strancali Hopefully I'll be able to share some of this test shoot soon, but I need to check all that with the performers first. Its entirely their gig. Heh, discovered today that there was 20 minutes of the performance at the start around the corner from where we were that we totally missed (we knew as little as the audience did, nothing in other words).

    Honestly, as I've been working with these clips I'm gobsmacked by how well this GOP6 AN setting does in lowlight.

  • strancalistrancali

    @driftwood +1

    @Stray EXCELLENT! Would love to see a clip :).

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