Good news. I need to add this for focus points to ask Samyang on Photokina.

This user has quite a few videos up: http://www.youtube.com/user/ProjectDandelion

Vitaliy posted aprototype lens by Samyang that could help a little on the wide end:

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4580/10mm-f2.8-ed-samyang-lens#Item_7

@JDN

Dude, you have my sympathies, cos that was how I felt 2 years ago. Every dinosaur that crawled the studios was given easier access to new projects simply because dinosaurs have cultivated longer and perhaps deeper relationships with the powers that be than you and I have. It's mutual masturbation, the commissioning editor throws out good money to "safe" or familiar people they know who can deliver work. It doesn't matter how they shoot them, or with what: as long as there are decent sound and images at the end of the day, that's all they care about. The result: half assed programming that creates a downward spiral for content development.

But with the advent of new technology, we can change things. We dun need these dinos and T rexes, we dun need terrestrial broadcast to get noticed. There's always webcast, and the possibilities with this platform are infinite. Best of all, the BMCC is more than great enough for this platform for many aeons to come. That's future proofing for us

@JDN

Dude, you have my sympathies, cos that was how I felt 2 years ago. Every dinosaur that crawled in the studios was given easier access to new projects simply because dinosaurs have cultivated longer and perhaps deeper relationships with the powers that be than you and I have. It's mutual masturbation, the commissioning editor throws out good money to "safe" or familiar people they know who can deliver work. It doesn't matter how you shoot them, or with what: as long as there are decent sound and images at the end of the day, that's all they care about. The result: bad bad programming that creates a downward spiral for content development.

But with the advent of new technology, we can change things. We dun need these dinos and the T rexes, we dun need terrestrial broadcast to get noticed. There's always webcast, and the possibilities with this platform are infinite. Best of all, the BMCC is more than great enough for this platform for many aeons to come. That's future proofing for us

Well, I pre-ordered the BMCC. I love the video -- and even though I don't like the lack of 60p, after getting into yet another argument with a producer about gh2 footage being able to hold up on TV (I seem to have to have this argument every few months) I decided 422 50mbit+ (and then some) was worth it to me, as is the modest future proofing of 2.5K.

I swear to god, the single biggest barrier to creativity in this industry is stone-age tech specs and those who slavishly adhere to them, preventing talent from breaking in and instead giving all the world to old guys with $40,000 cameras and the equally expensive PL lenses, even though half of what they shoot is deadly boring.

Bring on the revolution I say (not that it matters, TV as we know it probably be dead in 10-20 years with the possible exception of live sports).

@cupanudles

I preordered the MFT version. Some people on BMCUSER already received the EF mount version and I'm not talking about the bloggers that got them early, real users that ordered from B&H.

@cupanudles

Bunch of guys preordered BMCC here :-) Just did not get one yet.

@JDN @jfro They're not my work, i just post this shit from vimeo, because i like it so much. Everytime i see the DR my jaw drops.

I'm probably going to get the Sigma 8-16 with the iris control adapter. Then I'll probably get the Nokton 12mm 1.6 and re-frame when I need the stop...

@kholi :) I smile but the photo suggests a tight fit. Sharper edges are no consolation, WTF? I shoot "landscapes" (I wish) as you say, mostly newly developed, generic skyscrapers that are freaking hard to fit into a frame, but I'll manage. The cam is too good to pass anyway. I might get one of the wider ones and fool myself RAW will fix it at least as colors go but.... I am of the old audio ilk that were thought to NEVER try to "fix in the mix". Also revealing is the hint not to wait for 60 fps... In my whorish corporate line of work, slo mo is great but not a deal breaker. I can do with 30 like GH2, as I mostly promote venues and not products. This cam seems to do great in both compressed and RAW. I just need to ride out the fact that a local company bought a Fantom, and ALL the adverts in Spain are now super slo mo. Once people get tired of this shit (and them not knowing how to set shutter for 240fps) BMCC might just be the ticket.

@robmneilson

Don't hold your breath for 60 FPS.

jb

@allenswrench .....Still, you may want to get an FF and pull your own focus, as not every shot is static. Also, no AF is 100% where you need it to be and no AF is accurate 100% of the time. Why risk ruined shots? The BMCC has a screen that is good enough to pull focus so I was just wondering why not do it? Not to mention that continuous AF in video looks horrible.

I agree and that wasn't my intent. I am hoping the screen is going to be good enough to pull focus on and I have manual lens for that. I shoot 95% + with manual focus.

I was really referring to the occasional time where a quick focus is needed. There are a few times when a quick press of a button gets me in or close to focus and I'll tweak as I shoot. Many times on a auto-focus lens I will make a quick auto-focus when I'm behind or can't see the lcd, and then turn off the auto-focus switch or knob if I have an auto-focus lens on.