@allenswrench

Suffer through work flow issues?

Umm no. Unless the camera is faulty there should be no issues.

Shoot in ProRes edit in ProRes. Record audio on the unit instead of external recorder, no need to sync audio, plus metadata travels over so half your footage will be logged already.

I don't see that as suffering .

Right now I shoot on Gh2 in AvcHd then convert to ProRes, then sync it with the audio out of a H4N, then and only then do even start really logging it. Not nearly as big as of pain as capturing DV tape back in the day but it could be a bit less of a hassle to start editing.

The real issue with this camera is the lenses. Fast wides are going to be hard to come by. Tokina 11-16, Canon 16-35, etc. But they really need to expand the lens mount capabilities to M43's. That would be logical. The other issue is the lack of HDMI for EVF support, you shouldn't have to lose the image when you need to change settings...or at the very least they need to have an overlay so that you can do both things at once. Lastly, the ergonomics are, errr, not the most ummm ergonomic. A bit like the filing cabinets people drove around in, in the 1970's. This is definitely more of an aquisition device than a camera.

Kavadni goes looking through some old boxes for his Minolta MD -> Canon EF adapter.

@johnbrawley, thanks for posting. I really love the look of the footage. It's got a smooth and flat look and a naturalness to the Dynamic Range. I hope that you might consider making a video Tutorial of how to use the camera and deal with the work flow.

Just woke up .. I've been thinking.

I wonder what BMD have planned for the remote port .. of course I want zoom/focus and apperture on my tripod handles .. they say they have full control over the lenses so this should be possible.

I wonder if they'll bring out a head only .. I would like a cheaper version .. no SSD .. no Resolve .. dare I say not even RAW, if they came out at $1200-$1500 I would use with my blackmagic switcher.

Yes a BMD fanboy with a lot of investment and faith in the company .. I am sure they are building this with their other products in mind. Looking at their new Hyperdeck Studio Pro 4:4:4 recording .. I assume they will be creating a camera to feed those devices, so I expect higher priced cameras also.

I think I'll make a countdown calender with a chocolate every day .. it's like waiting for xmas. I just delayed a green screen music video until late August .. was going to be shot this month.

Warning: long, boring personal view ahead! @johnbrawley this looks really nice. Could you please share what your workflow was, that is to say acquisition format, lighting, cc etc. Was that window jelled? It sure looks like an interesting cam specwise, if they iron out what the users are most concerned about could be amazing (sensor certainly has great promise).

On the other hand, I must agree it is very mac-centric, I mean just look at the design. In that regard I have to agree with Vitaly- many hipsters will buy this as the design matches their mac book airs, but disappointed or not, make no mistake, they will suffer through the new workflow to be fashionable. I think this cool, pale look will replace a lot of the space that was occupied by 5DMKII in the last few years.

I have personally made a pledge to myself to wait and see if it delivers, at least 3 months from real availability. If the firmware eventually allows global shutter and 60p, that would be hard to ignore at this price point. Other issue I have is the EF mount and it's flange distance since I have FD primes I would like to keep using. Do not get me wrong, this cam looks like it's made for Samyangs, and I was also thinking about having a Samyang set for greater choice of looks (especially for corporate clients), but neither do I really need it right now nor does Samyang has a full set of primes for this sensor size.

I was really enjoying reading this thread for the past few days exactely because you can see what everyone's needs vs wishes are. This cam pretty much delivers (on paper) the wildest dreams that people here have been salivating about and expecting from a GH2 hack :) the big thing-like :) so I guess that brought out all the built up energy and frustrations. It all boils down to what you REALLY need. I own 2 GH2s, but I have a job tomorrow and have rented 4 Sony HDR-FX1s for it! They were cheap, and they will do a grand job for what the client needs. I could never do it with my GH2s and FD lenses. Besides, HDV edits ultrafast, and this stupid job will be delivered and paid for quick. On monday I start another gig and I will actually use the GH2 partially. For this I have rented a Canon XF105. I think it's great for interviews during a conference, and I can use a GH2 as a B-cam. Now, the client wants some footage of the conference venue and social events and for this I am planning to use only the GH2. They are all just tools, so best to choose what will do the job without a fuckup and keep your client happy. Besides, a variety of looks keeps them coming back to you.

So, yeah, I would love this Blackmagic to be great, and I would love to use it on sliders and jibs and in the studio and any controlled situation. But I would not use it for interviews, run and gun and I am really not looking forward to "handheld RAW!!! MBL'd CCd test of my cat/baby/car"! In any case, this can only be a good thing - a nice new tool. My 2 cents.

@johnbrawley THAT is what I expected the footage to look like from the specs! Very nice, dude.

That sample footage looks good, pretty impresses with BMD, I have many of their products already. I hope the people in other camps are scrambling to drop some price points on there products to compete, this could be a great battle of the pixel vs dollar drop.

@johnbrawley "A new clip is up here..."

Oh wow!!! Amazing! Super impressed with just the HD option from the embedded file!

This camera really is really looking like a $3000 Alexa. I really don't see any DR difference between the two. This was a great clip to show that aspect off. Nice job! Skin tones look better that Red also. But we'll have to see a few more vid first to make final judgments. Very excited though!

Any 1080p download option yet?

@jhero "Looks just as good as GH2 !"

Yep... motion and detail looks just as good here. DR looks to be in the Alexa range... 2-3 stops over GH2. GH2 will still be great for a 60fps until they (hopefully) update the BMD cam.

@johnbrawley Beautiful skintones!

@johnbrawley

Thanks for posting.
We'll be waiting for more stuff as they'll be improving calibrations and algorithms.

I ordered cam yesterday and am even more excited today. HFS on pc won't be a big deal and I am hoping Black Magic will bundle the needed software for us PC users. It's a big world out there and I doubt if they are going to place all their hopes on just Mac users. I'm also hoping they will make and include a thunderbolt to hdmi 12-18" cable so that our Small HD hdmi monitors will work.....

Yes, i've been thinking about this. Would Apple be involved? I don't mind Thunderbird instead of USB 3.0 but it isn't really logical as a first and only option is it?