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Panasonic GH5S GH5 S, 4K Video Edition
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  • Yeah, you're right VK. Moving to a BSI sensor with larger photosites would probably have minimal or no impact whatsoever on the camera's ability to capture an image with less light. I'm obviously a complete dupe of marketing people for thinking that either of those things would make any difference at all.

  • The HDR in that sensor can work good for moving objects, the two exposures are in time sync.

  • If that all gives another 1-2 stops of light, I'd be glad to call it a low-light GH5.

    Anti scientific capitalist media can do strange things with brains.

    Sensors and imaging are science things. So drop marketing bullshit, start understanding how things work.

  • If the sensor rumors are true, the new camera would have bigger pixels than the existing gh5 as well as moving to a BSI sensor.

    If that all gives another 1-2 stops of light, I'd be glad to call it a low-light GH5. Will it perform the same as the a7s series at the exact same f-stop? Still no, but that's a silly comparison anyway. I get 1 1/3 stop boost on my full frame lenses using a speed booster xl. Even if it's still off a stop compared to the a7s, I'd still probably be inclined to choose it for all of the other advantages.

    It would be a bummer to lose ex-tele mode in 4k, though, but that'd be a trade-off I'd take (just like APS-C mode doesn't work in 4k on the a7s mark ii (and it's available, but not really 4k on the original)).

  • 1 or 1,5 fstop better in low light is possible, and it makes difference. (half pixels compared to GH5 and back iluminated).

    So 10Mpix sensor. Yet, it'll be very small decrease in noise due to full sensor readout already.

    For dual native marketing I already wrote http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/242390

    HDR merging is possible only for some landscape shots and such.

  • If there is something new, it is already done now. So better thing to do is wait to see. And consider a cold water bucket dropped on us all.

  • @apefos

    I think it can be done. DP wise with iso of 6400 clean image, we can use it almost on any applications. Yes a quick lens is needed, but nowadays who can't get a t2.0 or 1.5

    More than that Iso, personally it is already cool for me. I've shoot on red dragon and weapon on iso 3200 and lots of noise in those sensors. If Alexa can barely pull 6400, and panafriend is able to pull 6400 clean I'm all in.

    But with such small pixels with this new Bayer pattern I don't see HDR as a feature on low light.

    You can't beat physics on silicon these days. You must use black silicon, or graphene and those techs need to be implemented yet.

  • 1 or 1,5 fstop better in low light is possible, and it makes difference. (half pixels compared to GH5 and back iluminated).

    This small improvement in low light + HDR merging two exposures in 4k = will make people buy it.

  • Also, here's hoping that it IS a low light GH5

    Unfortunately due to such moron thing as science it not much you can do to make "low light" GH5.
    And Sony A7s fame was most pronounced due to horrible sensor readout in video in first generations of A7 cameras.

    Customer and Panasonic Marketing telling about GH5 VE

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  • In Lok's most recent vlog, he visits Kai's apartment and while Kai is showing off his gear, at some point he mentions that he has a camera on the table that he can't show off due to NDA - probably the same as Casey has in the photo. The timing all seems about right for a Dec 15 announcement - the big question is how disappointed people will be when it only has about 1/4 of the features that they've dreamt up

    (Also, here's hoping that it IS a low light GH5 with lots of great video features so that it can push Sony to finally release an A7s3)

  • Rumors are starting to get surreal and supernatural!!!...

    God sending a dream camera from the sky!!!...

  • @EspenB

    Sounds like words storm :-)

  • Seems like someone leaked the new camera.

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  • @apefos Dual native iso is not possible on this Sony sensors.

  • All the people are really believing in this sensor, and with all features enabled... fingers crossed...

  • dual native iso in GH5 would solve the low light problem, and also two exposure hdr via firmware.

  • Lol @ that picture. Tards.

  • From what Luke Nuemann has alluded to in other threads, it may not be a new camera, but perhaps some sort of mod or add-on for the GH5.

  • There is a newly leaked photo of the GH5S at Facebook:

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  • It is. @paglez. But in time some rumors become a reality. I think this camera will happen. I heard from it before, but at this point why would not be?

  • @endotoxic It's only a mere speculation.

  • @apefos It will (if true) be, a grate choice for all.

    One thing though, I don't see this camera for 8k since that is 32mpx and it should be too much for m4/3 to handle size wise. Not even on a BSI sensor.

  • @paglez Look on 43rummors.com

  • @alcomposer, you have summed it up.