GH5 Panasonic camera, from anticipation to love or hate

alcomposer

If you use two cards it still splits video among them

I don't get it. You mean it splits the video when it writes to the next card? Or that in multi-card mode it splits video's into 4gb chunks? Kind of hard to write a continuos file between SD Cards... :)

But 4gb splits is really sick, yes

I can't stand 4gb splits!

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@alcomposer

If you use two cards it still splits video among them :-) But 4gb splits is really sick, yes.

alcomposer

Gosh, just noticed the GH5 doesn't split the video into 4gb chunks for long recordings! Nice.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

http://blog.krolop-gerst.com/technik/die-neue-panasonic-gh5-im-grossen-praxisreview/

joe1946

cropped screenshot : https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4263/35089826781_c763ef1f1c_o.png

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@alcomposer

Yes.

alcomposer

Are these body only?

Re SD speed: UHSII would be an easy way for Panasonic to guarentee 400mbps recording. Considering that user error is high on their list, they will probably make it impossible to fail.

I'm expecting a big greyed out menu item without UHSII cards.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

We have small new batch of GH5 (HK version) for $1950 shipped (to EU, AU, UK, US, NZ)

Can PM me.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@alcomposer

Btw, no one knows if speeds show actual camera limit. Can be just bad software side.

alcomposer

@olli66 depends if the Transcend cards are UHSII or UHSI.

Even really fast UHSI cards will not work with the GH5 with the 400Mbps firmware, as the internal SD Card chip in the GH5 isn't fast enough. This is easily tested by placing the GH5 into USB reader mode, R/W speeds hardly hit 30MBps with UHSI media.

Your friend will need UHSII cards (which have an extra row of contacts) to record in 400Mbps.

I am guessing that its probably very easy for the GH5 to know if a UHSII card is in use, and will probably just disable the 400 Mbps mode if UHSI card in slot. (That is my guess).

Also as 400Mbps is only 50MBps (400/8) I would suggest to get the cheapest V60's possible. The GH5 will not use the extra speed for recording video. (it may be useful for photo modes- and review though).

olli66

I own several GH2s and a GH4, not going to buy the GH5 but a friend asks if the 400 Mbps will work with a Transcend card with write speed of 60MB/s which would be 480 Mbps if I did the math correctly. Is this enough reserve?

alcomposer

GH5's JPEG leaves a lot to be desired. It would be nice to get HEIF, I'm not holding my breath. :-/

Vitaliy_Kiselev

If you ask me HEIF must be in next firmware summer update, without doubt. As HEVC-I hardware core is in place I see no reason not to add this.

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/17095/apple-did-it-heif-using-hevc-instead-of-jpeg#Item_6

alcomposer

I am intending to put some material up for pixel peeping, but its not mine @c3hammer.

I normally shoot these days in log now that we have LUTS and 10 bit. (I'm not currently seeing problems with 10bit and 150mbps- maybe I am not looking enough).

c3hammer

@alcomposer, Nice subject and composition !!! Was that shot with extended iso though? It looks like all the highlight information is completely gone. If you shoot with extended ISO 100 you get about 6 stops of dynamic range in bright sun. Never shoot video on the GH5 in extended ISO. Give ISO 200 vs ISO 100 a test, it's hard to believe it can be that bad, but you'll have to see for yourself. Cheers, Pete

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@alcomposer

I do not have GH5, nor do I have plans to get one soon (until it drops below $799).

Just edit GH5 footage :-) And for me low bitrate HEVC is necessary, as US internet speed is just bad.

alcomposer

If the rumours are correct, then 400mbps summer firmware will be HEVC. (Maybe the imageapp trick can reduce the bitrate?) We know that overloading the bitrate on the hack causes lower bit rates, so it could already work out? Just place stupid high bitrate value in url string.

I didn't know you had a GH5 Vitaliy.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Btw, my personal biggest wish list for GH5 firmware are addition of HEVC modes to 4K and 1080p:

I need 4Kp30 50Mbit, 4Kp30 35Mbit, 1080p60 25Mbit, 1080p 15Mbit, All HEVC 8bit 420.

alcomposer

Long hair in 120fps always look great! (Not mine)

alcomposer

Quite a flattering review actually. I was surprised.

Translated conclusion:

Panasonic Lumix GH5 will not be hugely camera because of its price and a combination of large size with a small matrix, but as a tool for combining video and photography is probably the best choice from what's available today.