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GH5 Panasonic camera, from anticipation to love or hate
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  • @timqqq

    It depends on your intended delivery format....ie broadcast or Internet etc

    If you are editing on a 25p timeline shoot 25p for most subjects unless the subject is fast moving like sports etc.....then shooting 50p and edit on a 50p timeline for 50p delivery would be better.

    The advantage to shooting@ 50p for a 25p edit is you will get a perfect 50% slo-mo with no interpolated frames​ if you need it...

    Whereas 25p 4k 10 bit 422 obviously gives more accurate color...if you are delivering to internet this color depth advantage is somewhat lost when MP4 encoding is done on upload (that etc)

    There is no one size fits all... You need to take into account many considerations before choosing a recording format.

  • @driftwood Barcelona still a mugger's paradise? Shame.

  • What's the correct luminance level for both 8 and 10 bit?

  • would anyone advice that... 4K 10-bit 422 25p or 4K 8-bit 420 50p be the common usage of the video mode?

    I am not sure which should i use regularily

  • can see that magenta hue that seems to come from the rec709 lut

  • Something going on on youtube about the gh5 AF:

  • @driftwood

    Will keep an eye out. You ok?

  • If any of you Spanish readers get offered a Lumix GH5 with the serial no. of WG-PP001244 and a SLR Magic 35mm T2.4 Anamorphic lens then you know where it came from as I was mugged today in Barcelona.

  • @theconformist

    Thanks, that sounds like reasonable request even though maybe a bit too much to ask for IMO. Boundaries are blurred today between categories, we want all of them to do everything, in random price range. I'm having hard time to really find justifications for all those requests from single device.

    What camera provides that kind of continuous AF tracking performance that you can absolutely rely on?

  • Why do some people find it unacceptable for us to expect Panasonic to be competitive the bar has been raised by Sony and Canon? Especially when I have to exclusively buy Panasonic Lenses for DFD to get inferior results.

  • @inqb8tr

    I think increasingly people want autofocus for using the camera on a gimbal system. Decent autofocus (or none) fine if shooting with deep DOF, but even better if you can lock on to a subject and keep a nice blurred background, or select with wireless app to seamlessly, smoothly shift focus.

  • I know two camera manufacturers who have sinusoid like (starts very high and ends on usual "it'll do" level) people anticipation considering AF before each new camera and both start with P - Pentax and Panasonic.

  • Ah OK Panasonic did bad AF because we dont need it after all. I just wander why they bother to announce "fake" improvements in AF while we dont need them.

    This logic sounds like a typical canon funboy's ballshit :)

  • @HillTop1

    Where specifically do you use AF in video that is so much important to you. I just wonder, since most people (maybe I'm wrong) use DSLR-s and later mirrorless in fashion similar to cinema cameras. That kind of usage is what pushed video in photo cameras from 7d onwards, and that is what we look for today. I might be living under the rock though.

  • @Eno

    Totally agree, but the Canon dual Pixel tech is patented and probably not to be shared with the others. :(

    Already shared with Sony and Sony shared with Samsung. So, possible.

  • Just to clarify I never said it was a bad camera and specifically said it is not a deal breaker. That being said it is regrettable that there seem to be issues with CAF in video specifically. My point was it would be a lot easier to part with $2000 if the CAF was a little more dependable.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    Totally agree, but the Canon dual Pixel tech is patented and probably not to be shared with the others. :(

    @HillTop1 "Then Panasonic needs to go back to its engineers because image quality in 4k 24p coming from an A6500, especially the XT-2 (which both by the way use phase detect) is on par or even better than the current 4.2.2 footage coming from the GH5."

    IMO, the GH5 video video is far superior to any DSLM to date, except probably at very high ISO. I really don't care about continuous AF, cause it's not reliable enough for my needs. Not even the parsed Canon dual pixel tech. And you know way? Cause the camera doesn't read my mind to know what I want to be in focus an when. That's why nothing beats a good manual focus. :)

  • @Eno “Panasonic specifically didn't use phase detect pixels on the sensor cause they degrade the image quality.”

    Ture! Then Panasonic needs to go back to its engineers because image quality in 4k 24p coming from an A6500, especially the XT-2 (which both by the way use phase detect) is on par or even better than the current 4.2.2 footage coming from the GH5. I am hoping that the 400Mbps update in summer will make the difference.

    Let’s be clear about one thing; I am not trashing the GH5. It’s a great camera. Panasonic has done some really great improvements and firsts with the camera and I really commend them for that. But they also left out something equally as important, video AF. For my style of shooting, I will not choose it over the canon cameras I always rent, or sony and now XT-2 because I occasionally rely on video AF. The GH5 has many real pro features that those cameras don’t have and will appreciate. Until Panasonic addresses video AF, I will always use the GH cameras for my “toy” shoots. All Sony and Fuji needs to do is add 4.2.2 60p 4k, good touch screen etc etc on their next camera and where’s it gonna leave the GH5 with it sucky video AF? Remember when the GH4 came out and you were hearing 4.2.2 10bit external recording and all that stuff, what happened to the quality of that signal?

    Fact of the matter is companies like sony, canon and fuji understand that there’s a growing segment of shooters out there that need and want good video AF and they are working to improve it while Panasonic just keep hunting literally for it.

    I have a gig in a week that I am using a fuji xt-2 (testing it out) and though I will appreciate all the good pro features the GH5 has to offer, I will not trade the XT-2 for a GH5 because I will need to rely on the AF on XT-2 at some point during the shoot.

    Again to be fair, I have not tried the camera. But all the reviews I am seeing online don’t point to a video AF system that’s remotely reliable.

  • I think some of those complaining first should understand the AF settings for video. They need to understand "Lock On" and "Sensitive". We have not seen something like that before and it really helps.