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GH5 Panasonic camera, from anticipation to love or hate
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  • @joethepro This is a good point. And, aren't you comparing right now? As a buyer I do compare photocameras between a price range from, uhm, 900 to 2700 $/€. If the next month Panasonic will announce a new 40MP sensor camera at 2950$, then I will compare it with GH5 and everything else.

    Furthermore, until this camera is not on the market, I'd rather prefer to be critical and prudent. Whenever Panasonic could give us more, I will be fine.

  • wow, ISO 6400 is looking pretty dang good.

  • OMG ! Plents of moire in the girls backpack in the end of the video ...hope this is YT compression...

  • Oh. Also a shot of the HDMI lock in the interview with Sean :)

  • @frullaccia

    ...still, from what we can see here, the low light performance of this camera need attention

    What are you comparing this to? For a m4/3 sensor, the noise level and color retention at iso 6400 is excellent, to me. With some good noise reduction in post it will look very very good. You cannot compare this to the a6300/a6500 as they have a larger sensor, and stronger noise reduction in camera which definitely creates its own problems. At least the GH5 wont have any motion ghosting like the Sonys do.

  • Sean Robinson mentions improved colour science - haven't heard anyone mention that before. Hopefully goodybe to that yellowy default look Lumix cameras have always had.

  • At the 11:00 mark on the video above, Matt says your cannot have punch in focus while recording, yet in Nick's interview chat, he said you could. What's the truth here?

  • Panasonic's Matt Frazer said in Youtube conversation that GH5 AF is not ready in those few prototypes some users has tested. It will be much better in final FW. He also said that GH5 low light is one stop better than GH4 because it uses so much larger sensor area for 4k video and maybe even one additional stop with better processing. He said if someone is comfortable with GH4 iso800 he will be comfortable with GH5 iso2000-3200.

  • @frullaccia I understand fully about forming opinions before official availability, but I was speaking on forming an opinion based on a videos that seem fake. Panasonic doesn't hand out cameras to just anybody who claims to be a photographer, so unless the videos are uploaded by Nick Driftwood, Luke Neumann, Griffin Hammond, or Panasonic I hesitate to judge, and even then these are pre production units.

    This GH5 release reminds me of when people were jumping for an opportunity to preorder the iphone 7 because they were tricked into thinking it was going to be clear by a few sketchy tech blogs, and videos with nothing more than unrealistic, and hopeful speculation. They have wanted a clear iphone since the iphone 4... lol

  • @Mckinise Sure. I am not at all a fanatic of Sony! Still, from what we can see here, the low light performance of this camera need attention, and aliasing could be another critical issue. I am also waiting for photographic samples, because we are talking about a photocamera which has to be compared with others.

    @J_Cooks Forming opinions before any official camera availability is part of the game between buyer and seller.

  • @frullaccia None of the Sony cameras have Cinema 4k or real 24fps. Nor do they have 10 bit 4:2:2, unlimited recording length, long battery life, or inspire confidence during long shoots in warm environments.

  • There seems to be a good amount of click bait / fake GH5 videos being uploaded on youtube, as a result I've seen people form strong opinions on cameras they haven't seen beyond a few pre-production units, or held the actual camera in their own hands.

  • From what we can see on the web, this camera seems to show some bad aliasing effect and not fully convincing low light performances, as we could expect from a 20Mp CMOS sensor. On the other side, slow motion and stabilization give very good impressions.

    Now, Panasonic friends, why should we buy a GH5, when Sony A7R II costs a little more, and Panasonic G85 or Samsung NX1, new and used, cost much less?

    Have I legitimate doubts?

  • @theSUBMERSIVE - not denying what they did or didn't say - just stating what worked for me and curious if anyone else had the same luck. might have been a fluke, so not telling anyone to count on it.

    And I think you have your words mixed up - maybe you mean one camera per v-log? :) dont think we need multiple v-logs per camera :)

  • @sam_rides_a_mtb Panasonic already said that it's one V-log per camera.

  • @theSUBVERSIVE - I did successfully add v-log to two GH4's using one v-log key - both with fw2.3, then after up'd fw to 2.4, then 2.5. Haven't tried my code again since, though did do the two within a few seconds of eachother - perhaps it was too short of time to register on Pany's end that the code has already been used.

  • @soulkeeper You are correct. Each camera has to have its own V-log and once you attach to one camera, you need another one for a different camera. You can't use the same for several cameras since as you pointed out, it's attached to the serial number.

  • In the above video:

    • 16:17 ISO 100, Aperture 3.1, 1/50 sec
    • 16:26, ISO 200, Aperture 3.1, 1/100 sec
    • 16:35, ISO 400, Aperture 4.0, 1/100 sec
    • 16:44, ISO 800, Aperture 5.6, 1/100 sec
    • 16:53, ISO 1.600, Aperture 8, 1/100 sec
    • 17:02, ISO 3.200, Aperture 11, 1/100 sec
    • 17:11, ISO 6.400, Aperture 14, 1/100 sec
    • 17:20, ISO 12.800, Aperture 20, 1/100 sec

    Sound in the concert was the built in mike except for 13:53 to 14:14 which was recorded with the XLR1 adapter. He explained it, that also the mikes must be weathersealed, this is why the original sound form the GH5 mikes might sound a little dull.

  • GH5 example videos in VIDEOAKTIV review starting at 14:00

    Not good dynamic range in these concerts clips. Maybe they used standard profile and overexposed.

  • Maybe it's just 60 p in 24p timline and that's the reason it looks better.