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GH5 Panasonic camera, from anticipation to love or hate
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  • @RRRoger ... and it will frame your shots perfectly, leaving you, (the director, camera op, sound recordist & DOP), free to harass the 'talent!

  • @ Vitaliy Bah Humbug!

    Of course they will meet all our wishes and come out with at least three new features we never thought of and do it for less money than the GH4 cost when it was released and if you are lucky you may find one under your Christmas Tree.

    The GH5 will shoot in the dark or directly into the Sun.

    We will be able to use the new top dial to choose 8-80MP from the new round Organic Sensor that fills the entire MFT mount.

    It will have clean, native 8 to 80,000 ISO.

    Max resolution stills can be shot at 60fps

    You will be able to take stable pictures and videos by hand while walking without a rig.

    All dials and buttons are completely programmable.

    You may dial in any crop you want.

    You can choose how much DOF you want and isolate a subject from any distance.

    The 4 inch fully articulating monitor has 4k resolution and can be used in the sun.

    You can choose a focus point anywhere with a touch and the camera will accurately follow someone or something with perfect focus and color when set for stills or Video.

    The GH5 will have a much faster 12 core processor.

    Everything runs so efficient that the GH5 produces almost no heat and runs for hours on one small battery.

    Well, maybe in 2026 with a GH10 and with equivalent dollars. Dream on.... and please go back to Speculating on what we will actually see next year.

  • @dial

    Well, I can tell you about very reliable way to know specs of next GH series camera.

    Get specs of current gen camera, add all wishes from corresponding topic on PV, now as you are full of anticipation and joy, remove or highly degrade top three of wishes and do same with three of highly used current features - and voila, you now have pretty accurate features list.

  • They are talking speculation about the specs of the GH5. It's more like a wish list, it's interesting enough but there's no inside information here.

  • I dont have idea about are speaking these japanese boys, but look like speciification -speculation?- about GH5.

  • Two of the only things I care about would be better low light performance and internal IBIS.

    I'm quite often forced to use 3200 or 6400 and then neat video to help clean it. Neat video's sole purpose is to save the footage so it becomes watchable, doesn't make it look great at all. It's not a matter of fast glass at this point as I'm shooting at 1.2 / 1.4 and it's no fun trying to keep subjects in focus.

  • APS-C is a little taller and narrower than the s35 Sensor JVC uses in the LS300. It should actually fit the MFT mount better.

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    The "up to" high ISO range is possible but how usable will it be? I need really clean 6400+ like my A7s delivers because all my work is in poor/low light and I cannot use supplemental lighting.

    The introduction price is probably correct. I would expect Panasonic to keep producing the GH4 also and maybe even come out with a firmware update.

  • Wow. They couldn't even use spellcheck. If you're taking the time to trick people at least proof read.

  • 43rumors calls it fake and there are lots of illogical facts. 4:4:4 for 4k/5k but only 4:2:2 for 1080p?!

  • Probably bullshit, although they may have gone the JVC road... (which would be pretty cool to be honest)

  • BULLSHIT! this camera can't have an APSC-Sensor. Its like you put an mediumformat-sensor in an Nikon D5 or Canon 1D-mk-X

    and 45 crosstypes AF-sensors? this camera has NO seperate AF-sensors ... That is just a timewasting.

  • Interesting and expensive. Some questions: Does APSC Sensor mean, that the m4/3 lenses do not fit any more? What is ISO 50 - 1,04,800? 4:4:4 10 bit internal?

    It leaves the classical GH price segment to compete with the A7s, D7 and D5 Mark III etc., at least pricewise.

  • Although Nikon might acquire some of Samsung's technology, I am sure they are not interested in the camera division. Merging the Panasonic camera division would be a better fit as they are both Japanese companies. However, rumors will continue and we have little else to talk about until the next camera release

  • First, thank you for posting some great suggestions. Let's hope Panasonic survives, unlike the Samsung's photo division that got sold to Nikon.

    I hope for:

    • A full sensor to 4k read out in 60p.
    • 10 bit. internal codec option.
    • Auto ISO in manual mode.
    • IBIS, including for video.
    • Phase and contrast detection AF with tracking, eye and face detection.
    • AF ramping and speed adjustment, for smooth auto focus transitions, think focus pulling by tapping on the screen.
    • +2 stops DR

    I'm also interested when the Olympus will have 4k video; then their camera's gain 4k+IBIS they will be more attractive then Panasonics 4k without IBIS. Only the faster panasonic ergonomics may keep me with panasonic.

  • I sent back my A7sII because the 1080P120 was so poor in low light due to the 2.2 crop. All my Videos are in poor/low light. At the necessary 8,000 ISO you can barely see the image thru all the moire. Reminds me of LA on a smoggy 1962 day when I could not see across the street clearly.

    There were other reasons as well that I went back to my A7s for low light Video. Internal 4k would overheat the camera and not as good as the external recording. The new body is NOT more ergonomic for my use. The locking mode dial is a hindrance to quick changes. IBIS is of no use on my TriPod. Both dials do the same thing and buttons are not fully programmable. Adding menu items only makes it more confusing and slower to change set ups. Still no touch screen and it does not pivot out like the GH4. When you add most FullFrame lens the A series camera are bigger and heavier than the GH4

    The GH4 is still better in every way except low light performance. Unless that is fixed in the GH5, I will have to pass.

  • I have a GH4, A7s, and A7sII The GH4 is a much better camera but it will not shoot in the dark nor do 1080P120

  • Not at all. My projects are all DCI 4k for projection. AS7 II doesn't have it. If it did, I'd have one. Even then I would light my scenes.

  • I envy A7sII because it shows what exposure numbers it is using when shooting video (camera is designed for video) and some better noise handling too.

  • @GeoffreyKenner In that case then I defiantly fall until the run and gun category. I agree in a controllable situation there is nothing lacking in the GH4.

  • "Do any other GH4 owners envy the newly released A7S II?"

    It depends what you do. If this is for a ready gun and shoot "making of/commercial/institutional/documentary" camera then it's certainly better.

    But if this is for film or more artistic project, where you use light, reflector, flag... and all that kind of stuff then GH4 is a perfect companion.

    Same difference with Manual and Automatic Focus lens. Each is better suited for something.

  • I have 3 GH4s and a great selection of lenses which I love but am awfully frustrated with the low light performance and not having IBIS. I was never interested in the A7S because of the lack of internal 4K recording but now with version two it's looking more like the perfect camera to have in that price range.

    While it's a strong possibility that a GH5 would have IBIS, I just can't see the low light performance coming anywhere close to good enough. Even a clean 6400 ISO would be far below what the A7S II is able to do. I was excited for the DVX200, I love the form but the low light performance is a joke.

    Do any other GH4 owners envy the newly released A7S II?

  • Since Panasonic didn't want the DVX200 to record to 10 bit and 422 internally for any recording mode, it would seam very unlikely for Panasonic to allow the GH5 to do that. Same with H.265.

    As for 4K 60p, that's something I'd like to see but I don't know if Panasonic would be willing to do that. Perhaps it would overheat in such a small body or perhaps it would take away one of the advantages of the DVX200.

  • You are sorta right. Maybe I should ask for clean 12,800? Then maybe I could get 6400.

    Because the GH4 cannot produce clean Video at high ISO, I am forced to use an A7s. Nearly all my Video is taken in poor/low light at 6400 ISO.

    I am aware of the limitations of a MFT Sensor and that is why I keep suggesting a new low megapixel s35 Sensor (optimized for 4k low light video) with MFT mount for the GH5.

  • Asking for clean ISO 6400 before M43 has brought us clean 1600 feels like jumping the gun a bit.