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Atomos Shogun 4K recorder
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  • @RRRoger - check out this thread http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?50154-1888-x-1062-WTF or google any number of production aperture/clean aperture threads.

    You are still recording in 1080p.

  • Mrbill ProRes doesn't record in 1888x1062. Where did you get those weird numbers from?

    The version in Atomos Ninja II does resize the images. Check your file with MediaInfo

    Video ID : 2 Format : ProRes Format version : Version 0 Format profile : 422 LT Codec ID : apcs Duration : 1h 8mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 84.1 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Clean aperture width : 1 888 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Clean aperture height : 1 062 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Clean aperture display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Bit depth : Pro Res bit Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.354 Stream size : 40.5 GiB (96%) Writing library : atms Language : English Encoded date : UTC 2015-04-19 09:31:29 Tagged date : UTC 2015-04-19 09:31:29 Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709

  • I was at NAB and stopped by the Atomos booth (I think they won best booth and they def. deserved it) - very impressed with this Monitor / Recorder. I own 3 Ninja's and have found them useful for so many situations. I like that they added 3D LUTs / cube files to this monitor, but I miss the old Ninja layout on the controls. Also the Ninja was $700 when I got it - and the guy at the booth told me this one is about 2,000 D:

    I'll wait for it to come down in price a bit, as I'm not desperate for 4K recording just yet, but this is one of my future purchases for sure!

  • ProRes doesn't record in 1888x1062. Where did you get those weird numbers from?

  • Seems to me that $2k buys you a suburb monitor and a lot more work when used with a GH4. For an A7s, you have little choice other than Convergent Design 7Q+ for 4k Video.

    Side note: Why does ProRes record 1888x1062 instead of 1920x1080?

  • Lovely stuff from Mr Fuchs

  • Video using their new firmware...!

  • Got to use the Shogun for a few days recently and it works really well with the A7s, crisp, clean 4K ProRes files. Just forgot how much data ProRes eats up compared to the internal 4K of the GH4

  • AtomOS6.2 features in detail;

    3D LUTs: LUTs (Look up tables) are widely used by professional cinematographers to capture a flatter image, leaving more scope for manipulation in post production. The LUT feature on Shogun is one of the best implementations of the feature on the market. Users can upload any LUT in the ".cube" format, either common LUTs such as SLog2, Slog3, CLog etc or their own user defined LUT, by simply loading it on the SSD and uploading up to 8 files in flash memory on the Shogun. Using the new monitor icon (added in the new AtomOS6.2), users can toggle between 8 LUTs for different effects, director's can look for the LUT icon on screen to see if the visual they are seeing on the monitor has a LUT applied and unlike other monitors & monitor/recorders on the market the Shogun allows you to apply LUTs regardless of the Codec being used.

    Avid DNxHR and Avid DNxHD: In an exclusive world first Atomos announce the implementation of Avid DNxHR 4K recording and DNxHD recording for HD. Just like our ProRes recording, the DNxHR/DNxHD is all recorded at 422 10-bit quality over HDMI or HD-SDI. The licence fee for using these Avid codecs is covered for free by Atomos with users simply needing to register their device at www.atomos.com/registration. This announcement now positions the Atomos Shogun as the only monitor/recorder with a solution for Apple, Avid and Adobe workflows.

    4K to HD downscale: After listening to the voice of the user, Atomos have implemented a 4K UHD to HD downscale (in the same frame rate) on the HDMI loop out, SDI loop out and Playback. This means you can still work with your existing HD infrastructure (e.g. HD monitor, HD wireless transmitter, HD EVF etc) but record internally on the Shogun in 4K.

    Playback preview: To make managing files on the Shogun easier for playback, a preview screen has been added behind the file name so that directors and DOP's can collaborate quickly, getting straight to the scene and take they want to review, if necessary zoom in 2:1 and check focus or exposure using the monitor tools, make a decision and move on.

    Revamped Audio meters: One of the key features on Shogun, not seen in any product in its category is XLR balanced analog audio monitoring and recording complete with 48V phantom power for microphones. To make managing this on set easier we have added larger audio meters for easier visibility of ballistic levels.

    www.atomos.com/support

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  • Very nice they added DNxHR, now if only they had locks on those HDMI connections.

    Edit: Actually even better is the onboard LUT support and the option to add a matte screen to it. Finally! Absolutely hated the glossy screen.

  • Can anyone tell me what is the type of DC plug ? I need to make some custom cables for DC converter ...

  • How about grain structure retention, or data in dark areas (where the codec simplyfies and destroy visually lossless)?

  • I tried out the Shogun with my GH4, and I just don't think it's necessary. I noticed a TINY bit of difference in sky separation and gradation, but that's it. Internal is so good on the GH4 in my opinion.

  • We want our product to be the best it can be and that means evolving over time. It became clear after real world use in extreme environments that our users would be better served with larger battery. Because customer service is at the core of our business we decided to give our users larger batteries immediately

  • GH4 still very much alive and well a year later. VS A7S and various other Sony Cams. Is it me or is the A7S very soft at 4K? a lot of detail loss in the buildings in the distance.

    Looks like the GH4 is pulling more detail out of the shadows as well.