@bleach551, you tray very hard not to get the point. By the way your image grading has a green cast but that's your vision and it should look as you wish. I personally have other tastes, am I not allowed? My previews discussion was never about correct skin tones.

I'm bored about all the nonsense relating to GH4 skin problems bla bla bla....get a different camera, it is as simple as that ( I suggest a Canon :) or whatever)

I personally am very pleased with what I see, and it will serve me well on my needs.

@jonpais,

Thanks

It's in @Eno's corrected image that the blacks are crushed.

The one to the left is @Eno's "before" image. The one in the middle is @Eno' corrected image. And, the last one at the right is my corrected image.

I always color correct trying to keep as much information and detail as in the original image as I can. I try to only "enhance" the original footage, that's my philosophy anyway.

I went by the clip that @Eno posted as the "before" image which, with my eyes, appeared to have a "red" cast to it.

@Eno,

I believe before you start doing anything to an image that you have captured , that you have to identify any "real" or "perceived" problems with the image then fix those. In the clip you used to show the "before" look against your color correction, it appears "to myself" to have a "red" cast. I personally don't like your grading as well. Your grading seems to neglect keeping skin tones accurate and you seem to crush your blacks to the point of loosing information in them.

However, to each his own. One mans "red" cast is another mans perfection.

The photo image on the left was the "before" image that @Eno Posted, this was what I based my "red" cast assessment on. The one on the right is my correction of @Eno's image.

Sorry, but it really does depend on the tastes and expectations of the viewer and whether 35mm film is, or is not, the standard by which digital images are judged. This viewer would be very interested to see material shot with sharpening at its minimum and non-lumix lenses.

As a side note, I downscaled to 1080p 444 10 bit uncompressed, so as not to deal with downscaling issues for display. The shot required only the slightest s-curve in the way of primary correction, but it doesn't appear to have anything like the grading lattitude of BMD ProRes footage, no matter what Voldemort says.....

GH4 really looks like an almost perfect camera for documentaries and low budget films... Still I'll wait to get my hands on one before ordering.

http://www.dkamera.de/news/preview-panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh4-beispielaufnahmen/

The GH4 footage examples have a ton of detail, but no harshness. Pretty interesting look.

@bleach551 and @rNeil. I think the beauty of color grading is not to get perfect colors but the perfect atmosphere you intended to give to the film. Yes, there's an accepted definition abut the hue of the skin tones, but...the beauty is in diversity, if not all the films who'd have the same colors :).

@bleach551 , I personally don't like you grading, I could get that look shooting standard profile and get rid of all the work and the noise and artifacts associated with grading super flat files :). I thin you want that super flat look to be able to play with the file any way you want, and create the desired mood for that scene.

I downloaded the .mov file from Driftwood's "skin test", looks so great but in Premiere I just get a green screen when importing the file others like the Porsche and other files that have been uploaded here before all work well am I the only one with this issue?

@Eno,

I think If You Get rid of the Red Cast In the Video It looks a little better

Combo of Red Epic and GH-4 (Red Shooting all aerial scenes).

One shot at 1080p.

I must say that @driftwood 's footage and shot of the guy on the street with the herring-bone cap was quite interesting. Seeing his clearly flat-shot image I was thinking it would grade quite nicely ... and looked at the cap and thought if ANYTHING was going to trigger moire in the cam, that cap would do it.

Then watching the graded footage ... yea, that skin is looking very fine, that cap is amazing ... this is quite impressive. Oh ... sorry, I didn't poo-poo on M4/3.Panny/GH-X skin tones & moire, must be something wrong with me ... ;-)