@_gl

Yes on testing.

@andyharris

2.5K and 5D3. It depends on how you shoot, the 5D3 will definitely appear to have more latitude in a lowlight situation, or where a frame is dominated by shadows because it's bottom heavy.

In a broad daylight situation, contrasty, etc. the 2.5k is definitely several stops better up top.

The Pocket Camera, in RAW, is pretty much the same image/DR, but actually seems to be a bit better in lowlight/underexposed situations than the 2.5K. I haven't done this side-by-side yet, just from memory.

Many tests to do.

That said, I think the 5D3 has enough range, and it depends on how you want to shoot, color preferences, etc. I find that Blackmagic cameras (when filtered properly, and sometimes even when contaminated with IR haha) have an image that lines up with my preferences.

@kholi Is there any more room for Pocket Raw beta testers?? :)

Here's the colour moire I'm talking about (scaled to 200%). It's also noticeable in the fountain. Would like to see someone try in Resolve to see if BM process around it. (note I messed with them in PS raw, but the moire is there either way).

Otherwise it's a nice image.

@_gl moire reduction on capture one work pretty well with this

@kholi Since you've mentioned IR a few times I'm curious about your opinion regarding the tiffen WW non IR ND's, the indie set for digital video?

I'm curious about the non-IR set. Kholi seems to have suggested the IR ones sometimes have an undesirable effect.

@spacewig

I was the one that suggested Tiffen WW IR NDs before the AbelCine test thing came around. It was because I often used them on other cameras aside from the Epic, for that camera I use Schneider Platinums.

That was for the 2.5K in the beginning, and also before I even noticed that the camera had a bit of trouble with IR.

The Able test seemed to back up the Tiffen WW IR choice, but recently I've noticed that my 1.2 WW is kind of sketchy, and my 1.8 is generally perfect. I did a test between the .9, 1.2, and 1.8 (did not have a 1.5) and the .9 had some issues as well.

Just tested Schneider Platinum 4x5's on the Pocket Camera and they don't seem to be the perfect solution either, but were more consistent up to 1.8. I also like that they didn't have an exaggerated green cast like the Tiffen IRs. Basically more neutral.

I'm still trying to organize a test on the Pocket and 2.5K (both RAW) to find out what's the most solid solution. But, it's hard to coordinate a human and all of the IR options, because I want to include some of the IR only filters (Hoya, Heliopan, T1 -- don't like this one though, etc.) in combination with the Schneider, Tiffen, and Genus Vari-NDs.

Lastly, I can't remember where I read/heard this, but it may also be a certain amount of IR's needed for a given exposure range.

Sorry for the long reply, here are some stills (Shot Pocket Cam RAW and Kowa Anamorphics, can't share the DNGs though as it's from an early build) that show the Schneider Platinum .9 and a .9 ND grad stacked together to form a sort of variable ND in the mattebox (slide the grad down when needing more ND.) You can see that a few of the black shirts on the skaters are polluted. It's easy to correct, until it begins to pollute skin.

That's what you do not want.

Looking from some "lab" irnd testing – can´t recall who did it but it was the same bloke who reviewed the new true NDs, It seems that you can´t be brand loyal if you want the most closely matched set. (unless using a hot mirror instead, or the true NDs - with the drawbacks they bring).

@tron @stylz Thanks for overlooking my dodgy camera work guys. The camera is definitely a handful to use when trying to work with minimal kit and docu style. When using solely the on camera screen, focus, exposure, and white balance are all leaps of faith to some degree.

However when got the footage back and started to grade it, wow. Instantly filmic. There is definitely a high end look that you can get from this camera that you can't get from anything else in this price range, bar magic lantern raw.

As a side note, I learned that 32gig sandisk extreme 45mb/s cards don't cut it. Lots of dropped frames with any significant movement of the camera.

imho worth mentioning: two 4x5.65 TrueND filters will cost more than your BMDPCC..

Are there any news about LPT cage in price & availability?

@shian what lenses were you using?

@Mckinise imho you should go for an intense test so that you can judge by yourself where the hooks are and whether it fits to your workflow in shooting and postpro. Anyway keep your stuff in spare.