My humble opinion is that they can't be compared. Apples to Oranges. Moon is very, very good as are most of Nick's settings. They are geared for more specific shooting situations though.

Flow Motion is also very good but more forgiving (Again IMO) and better suited for general applications.

720-60 which is the Achilles Heel of the GH2, seems better with Flow Motion thus better for outdoor sports.

I think a better comparison would be Sanity Vs Flow Motion.

I have been using Flowmotion on my GH2 since Jan, and its been rock solid. I tried a few other hacks now and then but they were all too buggy, and IMHO I didn't really see any improvements over Flowmotion. Moon was no good for me, as it saved corrupted metadata in the files and FCPX refused to load them. So if you want a really stable hack I would recommend FM.

No, you don't sound rude at all. I go to an Art Institute, they can't decide what to teach half the time(Between very basic video production and very basic filmmaking.) So we never get really deep into anything technical. Most of that stuff I know about filmmaking I had to teach myself which leads to times like this when I find I have a huge hole in what seems to be common knowledge. :( Sorry folks, trying really hard to learn this stuff.

Thanks Petenap and nac. You too vicharris.

@peternap Thanks. Now I get it. I've never seen that phased that way before... Now I feel a jackass...

...It's not that I'm not going to try them out.(I'm going to do that this weekend in fact) I don't have a lot of experience with this and I just asking for some advice going in. That's it.

I've rarely had an issue with flowmotion, it's a good one to start with and you can use the lower bitrate setting if you need longer recordings. You should certainly AB Nick's patch and see which you like.

@JuMo interesting...and I've been using the Cake frequently since longer than one year for its spanning was just always working in 24p1080. Note: always used Sandisk 64GB, for a price that I sometimes had to live with the known "file # limit exceeded" issue of that otherwise great card.

@tetakpatak A few months back I used Cake for an all day TED event and it was great (event was 10 hours or so). Not a single issue on multiple GH2's. I haven't personally run Sedna through the ringer in a situation as demanding as that, but from what I hear of others using it at events, it sounds like it should stack up to Cake in terms of extreme reliability, and I do prefer the image of Sedna to Cake, which suffers a little more in the dark areas IMO.

@mrbill I would agree with you that Flowmotion is more rock solid (as you put it) compared to Moon (T5 is what I have most experience with), Moon T5 will very occasionally stop a clip recording (though it's only happened to me a few times in months of use). I will say though, if you do any type of post on your footage, Moon T5 still bests Flowmotion in terms of flexibility and in my opinion, image quality. For flexibility testing, just try the good old saturation test (but do yourself a favour, and DON'T test that in an 8 bit environment, use 16 bit environment at minimum to truly see how far you can push it).

@JuMo what bug is that? That sounds more like an application error or user error. I get no such mis-mapping of levels. I also properly transcode my MTS to ProRes to account for the Main Concept bug that introduces artifacts into AVCHD footage in any tool that uses their libraries.

You should also be working in full 32bit floating point, not 16bit, if you're going to "push it".

Odds are if a person's system can't handle 32bit it can't handle editing AVCHD, not directly. Grading isn't about realtime performance anyway so system requirements really aren't steep. Five and six year old systems with 4GB are just fine.

I recall that article now but there was a lot of confusion in there, much of it having to do with assumptions that all AVCHD sources were the same or the same range. Transcoding prior to grading with something like 5DtoRGB does simplify things while ballooning the footage of course but it's a necessary evil for CS users so long as Main Concept's libraries are buggy and Adobe links to those.

What 16 bit system are you grading/editing on?

Dude, I don't know what you did with that Moon footage but I have never seen Moon look like that. It doesn't even look like you had it focused right. Something went terribly wrong.

Ahhhh, It didn't say it was still processing but I'll look again.