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Adobe products are now for lease only
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  • Once you have subscribed, you can cancel at any time. The software stops working ...then start again at anytime.

    For example, pay a month do a job. Cancel it. Next job 6 months later. Pay another month. Do another job. That's my understanding.

  • For some people it doesn't matter, but for others who work inconsistently with the programs, it can be a bother. For example, in the winter, I don't take many photographs so I don't use Lightroom much, but occasionally I might, so what can I do when I didn't pay the subscription? Something similar with video programs as I am not a full time post-production worker.

  • If one miss uses an edu license isn't that the same as piracy?

  • If you don't like it, let Adobe know. If enough people object, they might reconsider.

  • Kind of reminds me of going back to the days where you could only listen to live music, and if you wanted to hear it again, you had to go to another concert.

  • I see a big shift coming back to Apple and FCP.

  • What do you think, is it worth buying CS6 Production Premium Student Edition for 780USD (600€) now or save it for CC? What would you do? I have hard time deciding.

  • I imagine for quite a few users of PV, who use creative suite frequently and who like to have the most upto date versions of Adobe's wares, this is not an issue, may even be cheaper than yearly upgrades! But.. For those who don't use the software all of the time, and those who often skip a few upgrades because they are not required, or those who cannot pass the charges on to customers because their creative work is in the development stages, like say students, or artists creatively developing their work. I can see this being problematic..

    A useful addition to this thread might be to list some alternatives to products that lock you in to a monthly change no matter what your usage, and make you have to update even if you don't want or need to (what happens when Adobe decide to drop a useful tool or product?) wouldn't you want an alternative?

  • Sooo, how does this work? You pay the fee, agree the eula, download any .pkg you need from the cloud and install it? Does it constantly check for activation/license status? What happens if you are offline? The month you don't pay you can't run the software? Why are some people afraid of potential privacy issues, your files and projects don't go to the cloud, right? Is that edu license obtainable outside US?

    For now it seems that it is not to much to pay if you are a working professional, and even for a freelancer as myself, it sounds reasonable. It would be great if they'd make a special cheaper freelancer license, and charge bigger studios and facilities even more to compensate.

    And for the rest, may the xforce be with you.

  • @geddyt

    Fully understand you, but also it is good to remember that no one promise you same price always. In case of monopoly situation, inflation or any other issues you could suddenly pay $100 or more.

  • I jumped in without even blinking. My wife is a teacher, so it's $20 a month. The math makes it such a no-brainer that I couldn't say no. It would take eight years of Creative Cloud payments to equal buying a Master Collection. In the meantime, my software is always up to date with the latest, greatest version. I don't use if for the cloud crap, it's just the cheapest professional software I've ever used, period.

    When I first read about Creative Cloud, I thought, "Oh no, here we go again..." But then I saw the $20 per month educational pricing and started doing the math. It's literally the difference between being able to use licensed software and having to pirate when you're on a budget like I am. So I feel a hell of a lot better now that I'm able to actually pay for the software that I'm using.

    I don't do a lot of back and forth between apps, so I haven't noticed any bugs yet. The download and install process through Application Manager has been totally painless, though, and the applications have worked flawlessly. I was last using CS4.2, and I like CS6 a lot better. I even bought an nVidia card, as I can finally use CUDA now!

    I guess I'll shut up now. Just really stoked about it.

  • I'm on the subscription plan now - it's painless. I have every...and I do mean, every adobe product now. So instead of Just AE and PS like before - I have EVERYTHING and the first year cost me $30 a month, now it's $50/month = $600 a year. It'll be another 3 years before I'll spend as much as I would've had to spend to get every adobe product, and the now annual upgrades.

  • Yes, 50$/month is somewhat reasonable despite all the major bugs the Creative Suite currently has (working with Premiere and After Effects is a giant mess). I just don’t get what makes them charge around 80$/month in Germany, we don’t even have taxes on downloads.

  • Free with every Adobe Creative Cloud subscription: Total Creative Spyware including Story Swiper ( steals script ideas and screenplays) , Stock Footage Burglar, and Harvey Weinstein's Firstlook ( Harvey looks at your movie to see what he can cut out, before be buys it or if he can remake it without buying it! ) All apps work in background stealth mode.

  • Also, currently you can also stop and start at any time. My card expired ... I didn't realize as I didn't try to use an adobe product for a couple of weeks. Just changed card details ... Didn't pay for the three weeks I didn't use it.

  • @vicharris $50/month seems reasonable to me. You get a ton of software for that price (~17 software programs). Also, I think if you're a student or teacher, you can get it for $30/month. I'm sure the others on here have their reasons for not liking the pricing but I'm not sure what they are.

  • In the meanwhile, i expect CS 6 to be the most pirated software soon due to this pricing announcement...

    I see huge logic flaws inthis. Most pirated software will be Adobe CC products :-)

  • i think they are floating this scheme to get everyone to rush and buy CS 6 Master Collection perpetual license, wait a year or until Apple releases their new 4K solutions, then say "we listened", here's CS7 for you to purchase...

    In the meanwhile, i expect CS 6 to be the most pirated software soon due to this pricing announcement...

    Bad press = better than no publicity?

  • @Shaveblog

    In fact it is quite expected.

    First, total control and instant updates that will soon become transparent and mandatable for everyone but corporate clients.

    Second, good income from corporate clients and beginners who otherwise did not bough their products. Only suffering guys will be small firms and inidviduals who work in small marginal markets.

  • Just wondering peoples opinion on this per month rate. I'm going to upgrade from FCP7 soon and thought about going Adobe but this seems sort of high too me but I could be completely wrong.

  • Fine. I have CS6 suite and Lightroom 4. If this is the end of Adobe's line RE paid software instead of subscriptionware, sleep lost = nil. I'll stand pat where I'm at. Ohhh, I don't get the Super Duper Smart Healing Brush, just the Merely Smart Healing Brush? Where's a rafter that'll support my weight when I kick the chair out from under my feet?

    Honestly, I'm getting off Adobe's crazy train if they move everything to subscriberware. Notwithstanding the glory that is Lightroom, they already rub me the wrong way for the most part, and now they're doubling down on that uneasiness? Okay then.

  • get ready. this will be the way of all software soon... you can thank bit torrent and pirate bay for this.