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20mm 1.7 Lumix II rant
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  • 14-140mm was renewed. 20mm 1.7 must be the next!!!

  • @fatpig , don't think you can change lens firmware backward, unless VK makes a PTool support :-)

  • well, someone out there has the old firmware for you... :)

  • have posted similar about this before...

    Want a faster 20/1.7? Hop in your time machine, go back a few years...

    I contend the 20/1.7's AF has been kneecapped. Panasonic said it themselves (see pic)

    After it's initial release, folks complained too much about the noise from the 20mm and the firmware was changed (CAMERA firmware, perhaps lens firmware also)

    panasonic said: "Decreased the operation noise of Auto Focus in Motion Picture recording for H-H020 lens. (In order to minimize the operation noise of Auto Focus, the Auto Focus operation speed is reduced in Motion Picture recording.)"

    Which one of you big-eared, sound sensitive, types complained? :-)

    here's a pic from the panasonic firmware update site (GH1 firmware 'improvements')

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  • I want a 12mm f 1.7... THAT would actually be useful...ever since I got the 25mm F1.4 Summilux my poor 20mm is relegated to B-cam on the stabilizer only.

  • zZzzzzzzzz

    Are we there yet?

  • and we need them fast! ;)

  • We need more Panacakes! Lol.

  • I'd like to see some new pancakes.. Wider would help on a range of m43 cameras... :)
    Panasonic seem like they have a good formula.. I wonder if they could go wider without things getting too expensive?

  • Agree! We need more Panacakes!

    20mm still sells well even being kinda clunky and old, why mess with it if it makes money as it is?

  • For MkII, it really needs a bling bling pink ring. Olympus is using blue rings. A big mistake.

  • i love my 20mm..... how dare you speak ill of it!

    p.s i would like a mk2 though :)

  • I guess the linear AF motor requires inner focusing design which will affect the current design of the 20mm pancake which front element moves back and forth.

  • It would actually be perfect for me if Panasonic did a new version of the 20mm pancake with a linear AF motor. If this was the only difference between old and new versions, I would happily buy the new 20mm at full list. Then I could leave the old 20mm on my GF1 and stop stealing it for the GH2 whenever I have a shoot. Such a great, great lens.

  • 20mm 1.7 uses DC micro motor where 14mm 2.5 uses linear AF motor. Yeap... I want the linear AF motor on the 20mm pancake, too.

  • @stonebat I agree, even though I love the 20mm pancake and it's one of my most used lenses on both GH2 and GF1 (actually it's all I use on GF1, perfect symbiosis). I wish the 20mm focused like the 14mm pancake does. I'd probably use the 14mm barely at all for video shoots if the 20mm focused as quietly and quickly.

  • Apples to oranges. PL 25mm 1.4 is a good lens. I like a pancake. YMMV.

  • ¿And the Panaleica 25mm f1.4 its for real people?

  • You know... I had great hope in Olympus 17mm 1.8. It worked like a charm on E-PM2. But it's not good on GH2. AFC was so crappy. No in-body CA correction. Screw you Olympus!!! or Panasonic!!!

    I gave in... packed the lens and shipped to Adorama for refund. Why!!! Why Panasonic not releasing Lumix 20mm 1.7 II!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Panasonic goal to expand the “affordable priced lenses to lead additional purchases“.

    Like Lumix 42.5mm f/1.2? No they r not taking away my precious money. Canon FD 50mm 1.4 is real people's lens. Long live to FD. I just want Lumix 20mm 1.7 to be reborn... Gawd it could be so much better... One day my wish will come true...

    When that comes out. I will kill muthafukkas to be first in line to get it

  • They also need to rework their focus by wire system. It was really painful on this one compared to my Oly's (smooth and great manual mimicking).

  • Sorry... I belabored the obvious.

  • unless Panasonic is a dumbass.

    Who told you that Panasonic is not?

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