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  • New firmware

    Firmware Version 1.2.1 incorporates the following functional improvements and fixes.

    1. Uncompressed HDMI output is now enabled.
    2. Enables the center AF point to autofocus when the camera is used with Canon EF lens/extender combinations whose combined maximum aperture is f/8.
    3. Improves the speed of the camera's acquisition of focus when using a Canon Speedlite's AF-assist beam.
    4. Fixes a phenomenon in which the LCD monitor may freeze and display Err 70 or Err 80 when a still photo is taken during Live View or in movie shooting mode.
    5. Fixes a phenomenon that may occur when the continuous shooting priority setting is enabled for multiple exposures, such that, after the sixth image is taken, there is a slight pause before the remainder of the sequence is completed.
    6. Fixes a phenomenon in which the viewfinder display shows incorrect information during AEB shooting.
    7. Communication with the WFT-E7 Wireless File Transmitter has been improved.
    8. When images have been successfully transferred with the WFT-E7 Wireless File Transmitter through the FTP protocol, an "O" will be displayed. When images have not been successfully transferred with the WFT-E7 Wireless File Transmitter through the FTP protocol, an "X" will be displayed.
    9. Fixes a phenomenon in which the camera may not function properly when an Eye-Fi card is used.
    10. Fixes a phenomenon in which the focal length value listed in the Exif information is not displayed correctly for images shot with the EF 24-70mm F4L IS USM lens.
    11. Fixes a phenomenon in which the lens firmware cannot be updated properly.
    12. Corrects errors in the Arabic language menu.
    13. Fixes a phenomenon in which the camera changes the AF microadjustment value to -8.
    14. Fixes a phenomenon in which the on-screen guidance cannot be fully displayed when setting the maximum limit value for the "Setting the ISO Speed Range for Auto ISO" option.

    http://support-au.canon.com.au/P/search?model=EOS%205D%20Mark%20III&filter=0&menu=Download

  • Hey does anyone know it you can take a RAW still while recording video?

  • one other thing. The original battery grip can use 6 AA battery so it should output 1.5v x6 = 9v so my guess is that it should work... but it's just a guess, and if i'm wrong it's an expensive ''guess''

  • Hi i have vmount battery that powered my gh2 and works quite well. the output is 9.2v I bought a 5dmark3 and would like to use this vmount on it. Is 9.2v too high for the 5d? a fully charged canon battery is around 8.4v, would it damage the camera if i try to plug it to 9.2v?

    Thanks

  • Well that's it or me, the 5D is going on ebay tonight. A sharp S35 crop mode possibility was the only reason I held out this long.

  • what he says at the end.

  • Love to know the details....

  • too little too late i'm afraid

  • @labalbi: much as I figured already, it the "surrealism" that trips you guys really. It probably has to do with how one's brain is wired...we're all different, but we do belong to "tribes", and within that tribe, there is a narrow range of appreciation of what makes right or wrong. Waxing philosophical here...

    Wrt FF users boasting "na na na you can't have my DoF" the m43/Academy tribe goes "why would I ever want that aesthetic? It's like so flawed it hurts..."

    There is no middle ground, we just need to be aware and accepting of the differences in appreciation. I will likely offer options to clients - they're not aware of why they like what they like, they just react.

  • @radikalfim ...course man ...I am not the one of those guys here that love a brand ...I love my wife and kids he he ...no fight ...good discussion is always good...

    About the movie...you know, something about the color and the boket , and yes, I love the softness and the surreal feeling ...its a kinda of artistic to me.... I know that every FF user boosts that "Hey , micro 4/3 users , you CANT achieve such DOF with your small sensor cameras "...and I know too that in real life no one wants to watch a movie with such background blurred all the time in all takes ...its just annoying ...

    but there's is something I could not tell what it is ...dont know if it is the framerate , the shutter speed he used ...or the superb color grading

    I am being very sincere here ....this one made me wonder about selling all my micro 4/3 and jump to 5D III. But when I think the compromise in terms of price/weigh ...I know I wont make that jump ...but this movie was a mind twister ...

    Every day in my Vimeo feed via Flipboad I watch a lot of GH3 movies ...could not find a single one near this one ...maybe the people are not able yet to produce such look , or maybe GH3 shooters are obsessed with the "tack sharp" images ...

    But thank you to add such value comments ...

  • @labalbi: Not looking to pick up a fight. One man's treasure is another's garbage. I am interested though in what you find amazing/fascinating about it, if only to get an inside view on your thought process, and better serve my clients should I run into one with similar values.

    For me there are three serious weaknesses with the footage; do you find them strengths?

    a) - Excessive DoF leading to loss of perspective

    b) - Blown out highlights leading to loss of detail

    c) - Excessive softness leading to surreal feeling (with tech consequences like being unfit for the big screen)

  • Well...I have a GH1 hacked and preordered the GH3 ( nobody knows if we ll get our GH3 one day...) but , this video right here is the first video that made me consider the jump to the FF world ... AMAZING !

  • I'm more then bit disappointed with Canon QA process. My first 5d3 had few bad pixels now the second body's CF slot stopped working. Talking about bad luck :-/ !

  • Vitaliy has mentioned here before:

    Canon is doing only thing they could. They must not show crowd that days of DSLRs are counted.And worse, they must not show simple fact that all lines of lenses will require total change.<

    It's maybe time to quit the EF-mount. I will be loughing to death if Canon motherfuckers screw their own clients for fourth time in only 40 years and introduce the very new mount which isn't compatible with their own brand older lenses. After RF days were counted and SLRs with FL mount were introduced, only few years later Canon switches to FD mount and FL lenses didn't fit to FD bodies anymore. Few years later, the new EF mount was introduced and again, it was uncompatible with FD lenses. Canon seems to belive that people who work hard to earn their money will tolerate their stupid politics forever. Please nobody should try to convince me it wasn't possible to make compatible mounts.

    Long live mirrorless and its using of just all the old lenses ever made.

  • must surely be the competition from the Nikon D800. How Canon could manage to sell the 5dmark 3 $ 500 more than the D800 is beyond me. Those recent $ 700 rebates tells you how the 5d3 is selling. It could even be because of the d600 that in pure image quality is more comparable. I am talking more in terms of the camera market in general. That is the sales that are comprise the photo and video side of the dslr sales.

  • @jasonp

    Wouldn't be ironic if it was 4:2:2 output but it was not clean? Wow, April is still a long time away.

  • ha,ha...anyway I don't go back to canon..too late

  • @itimjim Well, the large sensor certainly gives that fantastic bokeh that no other sensor can give. The FS100 is quite a bit more expensive than the 5D MKIII, the FS100 body is almost £1500 more. That's a large difference in price, I also think there is a massive choice of lenses for the canon and these lenses coupled with the full-frame sensor give the widest possibly field of view. the bottom line though, is that this is a DSLR and not a video camera, I guess I'm asking too much...

  • @galvoguru My only problem with the 5Diii, is that if I was producing video for a living (which I'm not thankfully) and I had that amount of money to spend, I'd probably go for the FS100. I just don't see the value in the 5Diii unless you need both video and stills, or the unique look of a very large sensor.

  • you dont have to sign up, just type the password into the blank field: canongh2

  • @peaceonearth Thanks for the reply, I couldn't watch the video, I guess I need to sign-up to vimeo? I understand your comments re the GH2 and 5D3. Are you not seeing noise in the shadows on your MK3? I only see the noise on playback which makes me think it's the codec... With the high bitrate all-I setting I'm very dissapointed to see any noise...

  • @Galvoguru There is no black or white, no either ... or. I bought a 5dM3 too but I use it mainly for still photographs and I kept my GH2. For me main disadvantage of GH2 is that it works in best quality only with 24p. If you have to work in PAL land in 25p there is a lot of inconvenience.

    I am quite satfisfied with Canon's video quality of All-I Codec, very nice skin tone OOC and brilliant low light behavior. But.. (I posted that already in another topic) I've been out for 3 days shooting about 400 takes in 24p from 5 sec to 2 min with CM SkinTone Soft. It behaved very well, not a single fail or write/read error on two 32GB SanDisk 95MB/s cards. I made my test set up in my hotel room with a Canon 5D M3 and a GH2 an I could not believe what I saw. Bright light in southern Spain at 3 p.m. Make your own opinion...

    Pass: canongh2

    1) 5D Mark3 - All-I Codec 24-105L

    2) GH2 14-140mm | Canis Majoris Skin Tone Soft patch

    3) GH2 25mm Nokton Heliopan VarioND | Canis Majoris Skin Tone Soft patch

    all files converted with 5DtoRGB | BT.709 | FullRange

    I decided to shoot only with GH2.. it was superb handling high contrast. I will go on for another test this week to be sure I made no mistake. (I was very tired after 12hrs traveling that day)

  • Bought a MKIII last week after selling my GH2. WHY??, well, I produce video for a living and the camera has to be useable out in the field and in a variety of situations. When I first got my GH2 I was blown away. After adding a hack (I did make a donation) the resolution and lack of noise was very impressive, I also wanted to use my B4 broadcast lenses I use on my regular full size ENG camera. The biggest problem with the GH2 (IMHO) is the sensitivity, the regular M43 Panasonic lenses are F4 at best, at the wide end (14mm). Wider, lower F stop lenses get seriously expensive and I regularly have to shoot in tight areas with minimal space. After more comprehensive testing with my B4 lenses I sadly came to the conclusion that they would only be useable in certain situations, why? Well, you have to switch in the 2X extender on the lens to fill the camera sensor, this means the lens drops from F1.8 to F3.6, couple this to the fact that the lenses are not useable wide open, way to much image distortion and CA means you have to stop the lenses down to about F4, with the extender-in this gives F8. couple the F8 to the already low sensitivity GH2 (compared to the 5D MKii and FS100) and you have a package that's only really any use with a good level of lighting, trust me, I did lots of testing with variable lighting, F-stops, ISO settings etc and the results all pointed in the same direction. (note that I also tested the lenses without the 2X extender but with the GH2 in ETC mode). Another issue with the GH2 was how the picture changed once you hit the record button (exposure and colour), is this just me?. As for the 5D MKiii. It's a VERY different 'package' to the GH2. Firstly, the sensitivity is incredible, there really is no comparison, you can shoot easily with minimal light and still get a lovely looking picture with little noise, I simply couldn't do this with the GH2. Then there's the lenses, I bought the 24-105mm lens, this is like a 13-56mm on the GH2 M43 setup (I think the crop factor is 1.86, I could be wrong), an M43 lens with these specs (and a constant F4 across the zoom range) would cost a fortune. Getting a nice wide angle shot on the full frame sensor is much easier and cheaper. Telephoto/long lenses are cheaper regardless of sensor size/format so there are no issues. I found the sound on the GH2 to be very good, this isn't the case with the 5D MKIII (although it can be sorted). Straight out of the box, the background hiss when using external mics is terrible, and I mean REALLY terrible. One strange thing though (other MKIII users could confirm here), if you progressively raise the audio gain, the background hiss gradually gets louder (as is the norm), BUT just after the half-way mark the noise drops off significantly (for one click of the gain wheel) but then comes back-up when you increment to the next gain point. So, raising the gain one point (in the middle of the gain adjustment scale) actually reduces the background hiss, this is absolute crap, anybody knows this cannot happen with regular circuitry unless there is a problem with the electronics/program OR this has been programmed-in. Canon, what are you doing... I found that reducing the gain adjustment right down to the second mark on the scale effectively removes any noise, you then need to feed an amplified signal into the mic input (the signal level is now more like line-level), the results are very good sound quality with no real background hiss issues. There's no doubt that the picture from the GH2 resolves more detail than the MKIII but the difference isn't as pronounced as I expected and the MKIII responds well to sharpening without adding any undue noise or artifacts (thankfully), the net result comparing both camaras means only a small 'real world' difference. Apart from the sound hiss issue the only other gripe I have with the MKIII relates to the image noise in the shadows. Even when the ISO is at 100 there's still some noise in the low-light areas of the image, both the GH2 and the MKIII are very similar here but the GH2 doesn't cost £2500... I expected the images at 100 ISO to be totally noise free (I'm using the all-I mode), but as already mentioned they are not, I'd like to think Canon will address this issue and sort it but of course we all know we don't always get what we want. I don't want anyone to think I have anything against the GH2, I think it's an awesome camera and coupled to the fantastic work Vitaliy and others have done only makes this an even better camera. For the money, IMHO NOTHING can touch it. Some say we shouldn't do direct comparisons but I think the bottom line is that all of us are trying to get the most out of all cameras and this ultimately leads to comparisons. For me, I would have loved a cross between the GH2 and the MKIII. At the end of the day the MKIII is a more useable filming tool considering the work I do...

  • Found two dead pixels so far. What a bummer!

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