@icp the likely culprit for your loss of detail is, I'm betting, the avisynth solutions do their thing to not just the color information. The luma channel is fully sampled and will have very little to no noise compared to the blue and (sometimes) red channel. You can get the benefit of the noise reduction and restore your lost detail via something like After Effects. Layer your de-noised footage on top of the same clip in un-altered form and change the transfer mode of the de-noised footage to COLOR.

I've keep my eyes on this project, I'm always looking a way to improve the footage I get from the camera.

I've used avisynth in the past a lot. It's incredible flexible and powerful, but not for newbies, you have to know (somehow) what you're doing. For denoising: Neat video beat anything I've used in avisynth, in avisynth I've always suffered for lost of details that NV don't. For film grain, I've used grainfactory a lot, it's amazing (and slow) script, but in the past years I've used match grain in AE.

@jazzroy not all strings were applied. Install any official avisynth version or wait for Alpha3.

@zsero Sorry, but I cannot implement Cineform avi export because I know no way to pass 16 bit/channel video from Avisynth to DirectShow. Also ffmpeg/ffmbc have limited support of 10-bit codecs. Currently only DNxHD 4:2:2 10 bit and H.264 10 bit (all chroma sampling) can be used to export 16-bit video. ProRes support is very strange. I get 8-bit video even from a 16-bit source. So, probably I will code my own c++ code to implement export later, but not in a near future.

A question for GH2/3 owners. What a minimal size in bytes of a first 4GiB MTS file (spanning)? This data is required to implement correct import from your camera.

@rean, I think it's not easy to see a difference, because you are comparing them side by side. It's almost impossible for a human visual system to compare things side-by-side.

A better way would be just links to the original 2 source images and then you can just change tabs in your browser. Also, there is a special website just for comparing two images by mouse hover, but I forgot it's name.

Oops... imgurl recompress the png source :(

Reposted again... PS. Please see in the real 100% resolution. Web browsers scale the source to fit it to a window.

I guess if you cant see the difference in the little girls before and after comparison then you probably don't need this software. Anyone else not seeing a difference in the bottom still? I can see the blocking in the top one that is fixed in the second one, but no difference in the side by side. Maybe the jpeg is masking the difference.

Heh, some of it might not be legal!

Oops, sorry. I have moved it to another site. zsero, thanks for the recommendation.

Is there any chances to get your code inside a After Effects plugin?

No. It is impossible to use it "inside" and also as a plugin due Avisynth architecture limitations. Also different stages (~20) are used with a special visual control for every stage. Сurrently the program is for prepoduction only.

Probably you can export your project files, then import it into Windmotion, process it there and get it back again. What a file format After Effect uses for project files? Probably I can create import and export for it.

Warning. It is not a correct way to use Windmotion, but you can try it for your old projects. The new projects should use this scheme:

1. Get a *.mts source.
2. Import it into Windmotion.
3. Proccess it in a batch mode.
4. Export it to a file format you need for your software.
5. Your own tasks.
6. Remove any temporary files.
7. Keep original *.mts source and Windmotion project files (~3 kb per a source) to a backup disk array or a tape.

Because Windmotion uses text files for projects, there is no needs to keep temporary and end results. You can restore them later in any time.

To restore a project in a future:

1. Restore all *.mts source and Windmotion project files.
2. Repeat all previous steps (just mouse clicks and waits for the result. No any editing!)

Also, if you have a mistake in any stage, you can try to correct it later. There is no any "source destroy" stage, and a need to repeat all the steps again like in editors.

Windmotion has a command principle, used in a node-based video software. I have no reason to use a editing software like Adobe or plugins, because I cannot change any middle stage later. Using “editors” is not a correct way for video production now. All the future video software will be command- or node- based.

Another question would be how does the Avisynth noise reduction compare to Neat Video? In case Neat Video is better, could you chain it in between at the right place?

Avisynth has no noise reduction. It is a platform for other plugins. Currently I use different plugins and special algorithms to use them specially for the program tasks. Also Windmotion has a possibility to choose a better way to denoise in every special case. It is very creative stage. It is not a simple solution "click and get a result".

So it is a Neat Video alternative solution. You can try it to get a compare. For me personally, I really have no reason to use Neat Video, because Windmotion suits me for any noised sources I have.

@Meierhans,

If he'd integrate it into AE, it'd all be limited to whatever decoder AE uses. For example look at the "digital rain" problems, the Adobe decoder produces this bug. Maybe Adobe will fix it, maybe not. The only workaround is not to use Adobe as a decoder, but something like 5DtoRGB.

So this tool is an alternative to 5DtoRGB / Cineform HD Link, not a plugin. It can use whatever decoder it needs, if we find one to be buggy, @rean can just change the decoder. Not with Adobe.

Also, I think it's perfectly fine to import a footage into an editing friendly format (what is not h264). In my opinion the best is Cineform, since it's free and it's AVI based, unlike ProRes and DNxHD, both what are MOV based. So you can have a totally QuickTime free workflow on windows (a big big advantage!).

Yes, that's quite a disgusting site, @rean, I'd recommend you to use imgur.

A very handy open source program to upload all kind of things to image sharing websites (as well as for lot of other ones as well) is ShareX: https://code.google.com/p/sharex/

@rean, might want to put some forewarning that the advertising on the site you linked those images may not be work safe.

Watching this topic. sounds interesting.

@rean Have you compared the results of restoring hacked with unhackd GH2 footage?

I'd be happy to share original MTS files that you can then publish. Just let me know how to get it to you.